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Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team

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Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team

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Post by vacri »

glkgdswdg wrote: post #11
brianwawok wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard to make money selling a free OS to replace an OS the customer doesn't pay for already?

They weren't targeting users, they were targeting manufacturers (pay them and they'll do the software). It actually makes sense as a business model, but they messed up by backstabbing their first customer (after contracting with OnePlus, they signed an exclusive contract with MicroMax that no other company can sell cyanogenos in India, which, had OnePlus not made OxygenOS, would have killed them.) It was probably the…

Crazy. Imagine if Microsoft have given a single vendor exclusive rights to sell their operating system in a major market. We wouldn't even know their name today, except as a historical curio.

Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team

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Post by aswanson »

user837387 wrote: post #20
glkgdswdg wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They weren't targeting users, they were targeting manufacturers (pay them and they'll do the software). It actually makes sense as a business model, but they messed up by backstabbing their first customer (after contracting with OnePlus, they signed an exclusive contract with MicroMax that no other company can sell cyanogenos in India, which, had OnePlus not made OxygenOS, would have killed them.) It was probably the…

>>It was probably the stupidest move they could have done, as no company would trust them again, and lost them all the goodwill they had. There are plenty of people in the business world that screw so many people, businesses, banks and they still manage to continue doing business. I wish there was a name for it. Madoff is an example: even after people warned others about his business being a scam he still continued d…

There are a fair amount of internet companies that started off as goodwill projects, though.

Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team

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Post by Andrex »

greglindahl wrote: post #7
brianwawok wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard to make money selling a free OS to replace an OS the customer doesn't pay for already?

Android is "free" to the consumer, but the payment is that if you want all of the Google apps (which are no longer part of the open source stuff) and the consumer uses the Google apps (likely), all of the search revenue goes to Google.

Good point, but for the record none of the Google apps were ever open source - they were part of the compatibility suite from the start.

They did start replacing a couple of the open source apps with Google versions, though (like the browser.)

Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team

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Post by greglindahl »

Andrex wrote: post #25
greglindahl wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Android is "free" to the consumer, but the payment is that if you want all of the Google apps (which are no longer part of the open source stuff) and the consumer uses the Google apps (likely), all of the search revenue goes to Google.

Good point, but for the record none of the Google apps were ever open source - they were part of the compatibility suite from the start. They did start replacing a couple of the open source apps with Google versions, though (like the browser.)

I was thinking of the browser in particular -- the open source one was abandoned a while ago, and the proprietary one has google hard-wired as the only search engine.

Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team

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Post by robk »

Part of the problem is the confusing naming. I'm an Android fan and I can't tell the difference between CyanogenMod, Cyanogen OS, Cyanogen Inc and Cyngn. Terrible way to run a business and project when it's too hard to separate out what they each do by a unique name.

Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team

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Post by PakG1 »

notatoad wrote: post #18
Animats wrote: post #15

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Blah. Sounds like another Linux distro.

I think the boring name is a good sign - Operating systems should be boring. Flashy marketing leads to the sort of drama that killed cyanogen.

The word lineage is boring? It seems to be haughty, lofty, arrogant, and so on.

Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team

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Post by lkrubner »

vacri wrote: post #21
glkgdswdg wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They weren't targeting users, they were targeting manufacturers (pay them and they'll do the software). It actually makes sense as a business model, but they messed up by backstabbing their first customer (after contracting with OnePlus, they signed an exclusive contract with MicroMax that no other company can sell cyanogenos in India, which, had OnePlus not made OxygenOS, would have killed them.) It was probably the…

Crazy. Imagine if Microsoft have given a single vendor exclusive rights to sell their operating system in a major market. We wouldn't even know their name today, except as a historical curio.

In the mid 1980s, Microsoft did offer exclusive rights to someone to sell DOS in Japan. The seller did a bad job. The deal had to be unwound after 4 years.

Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team

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Post by sparrish »

PakG1 wrote: post #28
notatoad wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the boring name is a good sign - Operating systems should be boring. Flashy marketing leads to the sort of drama that killed cyanogen.

The word lineage is boring? It seems to be haughty, lofty, arrogant, and so on.

Where does lineage mean that? I've never seen that definition.
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