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The Architecture of Evil: Dystopian Megacorps in Speculative Fiction Films

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Re: The Architecture of Evil: Dystopian Megacorps in Speculative Fiction Films

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Honest statement: maybe its because I'm a child of the 80s, and so grew up around media with strong dystopian/cyberpunk styling... But I've always wondered why more tech companies and corporations don't embrace this aesthetic. The buildings are so distinctive and striking that it would result in very strong branding. And while motivated by questionable ethics, we do associate megacorps in fiction with bleeding edge t…

My dad, who was a historian and business professor, told me once that you could trace the start of the decline of a company when they completed their showcase palace headquarters. The problem is they became focused on the edifice rather than their business.

I wonder how much of that is some sort of reversion to the mean though. I.e. you often don't build a showcase palace headquarters until you've clearly been a great success. Not always of course. Executive ego can't be discounted in some cases.

However, to the degree a showcase gets built when a company is riding high and growing, it's not unusual that looking out 5 or 10 years, that company won't be doing so well.

Re: The Architecture of Evil: Dystopian Megacorps in Speculative Fiction Films

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is not as if anyone takes the Google happy colors and 'don't be evil' motto as actually indicative of ethical behavior I ordered a Google Home for my dad for Christmas. It's ridiculous the only color available is white. I'm sure they are trying to avoid the 1984 / 2001 aesthetic by making it look as cuddly as possible, but they are just trading that for a Brave New World / I, Robot aesthetic. On top of that, it…

https://store.google.com/product/google_home_base What do you mean by only color available being white?

Not sure, maybe the top is only white? I dont actually know but I assume that's what GP was talking about.

Re: The Architecture of Evil: Dystopian Megacorps in Speculative Fiction Films

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post #4

Back in my days of architecture school we threw around terms such as "human scale" and "typology" in classes. The article demonstrates well the idea of "typology" - how we came to associate Brutalist structures with FBI-style surveillance states. Did you know we also associate stuff like Greek Columns with government in general? The "human scale" term refers to how a building's shape and texture should be broken up t…

That's funny, in the context of American buildings, the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Greek columns in Georgian mansions. Only after that do I think of perhaps courthouses. Here in Boston, the brutalist monstrosity that is our city hall has its Soviet oppressiveness enhanced by the pillbox-laden concrete wasteland that surrounds it. It really is a monument to government power.

Boston City Hall really is an epic attempt to outdo Soviet era totalitarian architecture. There is at least some effort to do something with the windswept brickyard that surrounds it. [1] I haven't followed these plans all that closely but, to the degree the surrounding space can be made more useful/inviting, it would help a lot.

I'd also note that the brutalist addition to the Boston Public Library always struck me as rather a desecration of the original Beaux Arts structure but the recent remodel and cleanup actually created a rather open and airy space. I still don't love the architecture but it's a big improvement.

[1] https://nextcity.org/daily/entry/boston-city-hall-plaza-rede...

Re: The Architecture of Evil: Dystopian Megacorps in Speculative Fiction Films

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post #4

Back in my days of architecture school we threw around terms such as "human scale" and "typology" in classes. The article demonstrates well the idea of "typology" - how we came to associate Brutalist structures with FBI-style surveillance states. Did you know we also associate stuff like Greek Columns with government in general? The "human scale" term refers to how a building's shape and texture should be broken up t…

That's funny, in the context of American buildings, the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Greek columns in Georgian mansions. Only after that do I think of perhaps courthouses. Here in Boston, the brutalist monstrosity that is our city hall has its Soviet oppressiveness enhanced by the pillbox-laden concrete wasteland that surrounds it. It really is a monument to government power.

For anyone else interested, here's a picture: https://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_960w/Boston/2011-2020/2016/09/07...

Re: The Architecture of Evil: Dystopian Megacorps in Speculative Fiction Films

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post #23

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That's funny, in the context of American buildings, the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Greek columns in Georgian mansions. Only after that do I think of perhaps courthouses. Here in Boston, the brutalist monstrosity that is our city hall has its Soviet oppressiveness enhanced by the pillbox-laden concrete wasteland that surrounds it. It really is a monument to government power.

Boston City Hall really is an epic attempt to outdo Soviet era totalitarian architecture. There is at least some effort to do something with the windswept brickyard that surrounds it. [1] I haven't followed these plans all that closely but, to the degree the surrounding space can be made more useful/inviting, it would help a lot. I'd also note that the brutalist addition to the Boston Public Library always struck me…

Pure brutalism is bad enough, but in Boston (and to a lesser extent, the rest of the US) we just had to muck it up with fake-traditional touches like brick facing that make it look so much worse. IMO the worst part of City Hall isn't the concrete honeycomb superstructure, it's the brick-clad base. Brick is good when its appearance makes structural sense: arches or lintels over openings, proper sills, a combination of headers and stretchers, etc. However it's always monolithic, and the only thing worse than monolithic concrete is monolithic brick. That's why I'll take the BPL extension over city hall any day--at least BPL is purely brutalist and makes no apologies for it.

Re: The Architecture of Evil: Dystopian Megacorps in Speculative Fiction Films

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post #22
post #19

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https://store.google.com/product/google_home_base What do you mean by only color available being white?

Not sure, maybe the top is only white? I dont actually know but I assume that's what GP was talking about.

Yeah, definitely talking about the top of the device. I thought that was obvious from context, since the bottom appears to be silver in the photos I've seen, and you only interact with the top of the device.

Re: The Architecture of Evil: Dystopian Megacorps in Speculative Fiction Films

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's funny, in the context of American buildings, the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Greek columns in Georgian mansions. Only after that do I think of perhaps courthouses. Here in Boston, the brutalist monstrosity that is our city hall has its Soviet oppressiveness enhanced by the pillbox-laden concrete wasteland that surrounds it. It really is a monument to government power.

Boston City Hall really is an epic attempt to outdo Soviet era totalitarian architecture. There is at least some effort to do something with the windswept brickyard that surrounds it. [1] I haven't followed these plans all that closely but, to the degree the surrounding space can be made more useful/inviting, it would help a lot. I'd also note that the brutalist addition to the Boston Public Library always struck me…

If you can find it, Walt Lockley's "Brutalized in Boston" essay from 2007 is the best critique I've ever found of city hall, and what motivated the design of what appears to be an enormous concrete ziggurat fired point-down into what used to be Scollay Square.

I wish I had a copy-it is an enormously enjoyable piece.

Re: The Architecture of Evil: Dystopian Megacorps in Speculative Fiction Films

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post #7

Honest statement: maybe its because I'm a child of the 80s, and so grew up around media with strong dystopian/cyberpunk styling... But I've always wondered why more tech companies and corporations don't embrace this aesthetic. The buildings are so distinctive and striking that it would result in very strong branding. And while motivated by questionable ethics, we do associate megacorps in fiction with bleeding edge t…

My dad, who was a historian and business professor, told me once that you could trace the start of the decline of a company when they completed their showcase palace headquarters. The problem is they became focused on the edifice rather than their business.

Thank you for this little nugget of wisdom! It puts one of my past employers into a relevant context.

Re: The Architecture of Evil: Dystopian Megacorps in Speculative Fiction Films

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Boston City Hall really is an epic attempt to outdo Soviet era totalitarian architecture. There is at least some effort to do something with the windswept brickyard that surrounds it. [1] I haven't followed these plans all that closely but, to the degree the surrounding space can be made more useful/inviting, it would help a lot. I'd also note that the brutalist addition to the Boston Public Library always struck me…

If you can find it, Walt Lockley's "Brutalized in Boston" essay from 2007 is the best critique I've ever found of city hall, and what motivated the design of what appears to be an enormous concrete ziggurat fired point-down into what used to be Scollay Square. I wish I had a copy-it is an enormously enjoyable piece.

Here you go, courtesy of the Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20081227044845/http://www.waltlo...

(waltlockley.com still exists although it looks as if it hasn't been updated for almost 10 years. But some of the older content doesn't seem to be there any longer.)

ADDED: One fun paragraph from the piece:

So imagine the real experience of government through the eyes of a pedestrian forced to traverse a windswept empty plaza ('windswept' is just a word, but, please, understand that it's a whole set of unpleasant sensations, 'windswept' is shorthand for windswept, snowswept, exposed to cold wet penetrating Boston wind, featureless, hard and flat, forbidding, uninteresting, vulnerabilzing, isolating, scaled-to-intimidate), past the broken promise of a fountain that has never ever worked (too bad we don't have a Broken Fountains theory to go along with the Broken Windows theory), to approach the underside of a top-heavy, brooding, hulking concrete fortress (and by 'fortress' I mean instantly, cinematically, viscerally, recognizably-by-shape-alone out of human scale, comparable to the worst of Soviet work), rough to the touch and confusing as hell, a building that wastes your time, a building with cavernous voids vaguely threatening and vaguely empty, so he or she can climb upstairs and register to vote. All metaphors aside, that voter learns things during a journey like that. That voter draws certain conclusions about Boston and voting and his role as a citizen. Whether he knows it or not.

Re: The Architecture of Evil: Dystopian Megacorps in Speculative Fiction Films

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post #7

Honest statement: maybe its because I'm a child of the 80s, and so grew up around media with strong dystopian/cyberpunk styling... But I've always wondered why more tech companies and corporations don't embrace this aesthetic. The buildings are so distinctive and striking that it would result in very strong branding. And while motivated by questionable ethics, we do associate megacorps in fiction with bleeding edge t…

My dad, who was a historian and business professor, told me once that you could trace the start of the decline of a company when they completed their showcase palace headquarters. The problem is they became focused on the edifice rather than their business.

Drive by Apple's new mothership building in Cupertino, and you'll get that feeling. Latest drone imagery (4K): [1]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh_9_1FX0Yk

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