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Censored Photographs of FDR’s Japanese Concentration Camps

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Re: Censored Photographs of FDR’s Japanese Concentration Camps

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Post by roywiggins »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #17
kofejnik wrote: post #12

This was appalling and obviously sucked a lot for people who underwent such treatment; however as someone born in USSR I'd say that it was surprisingly humane (hot water not always available) compared to how people were treated in the USSR around the same period. Case in point: Ukrainian Holodomor (genocide by famine) http://www.rferl.org/a/holodomor-ukraine/25174454.html Edit: also, Chechen and Krimean Tatar deporta…

You could just compare it to the Nazi internment camps for Jews, if finding "worse" conditions is the goal. (I'm being sardonic.) (OT question: sarcastic is to sarcasm as sardonic is to ____?) These were second and third generation "immigrants" living their normal, everyday American lives, torn away from their homes, communities, jobs, schools, churches, friends, and families. The crime isn't in the living conditions…

snark?

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Post by katkattac »

mgkimsal wrote: post #5

"The very fact that no sabotage has taken place to date is a disturbing and confirming indication that such action will be taken." THAT is disturbing "logic".

This is a quote from General John L. DeWitt, head of the U.S. Army’s Western Defense Command. He's basically the guy that convinced the president that this was a good idea. Why we put people like him in power (instead of prison), I'll never understand.

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Post by paublyrne »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #17
kofejnik wrote: post #12

This was appalling and obviously sucked a lot for people who underwent such treatment; however as someone born in USSR I'd say that it was surprisingly humane (hot water not always available) compared to how people were treated in the USSR around the same period. Case in point: Ukrainian Holodomor (genocide by famine) http://www.rferl.org/a/holodomor-ukraine/25174454.html Edit: also, Chechen and Krimean Tatar deporta…

You could just compare it to the Nazi internment camps for Jews, if finding "worse" conditions is the goal. (I'm being sardonic.) (OT question: sarcastic is to sarcasm as sardonic is to ____?) These were second and third generation "immigrants" living their normal, everyday American lives, torn away from their homes, communities, jobs, schools, churches, friends, and families. The crime isn't in the living conditions…

Sardonicism. It doesn't come up much.

Re: Censored Photographs of FDR’s Japanese Concentration Camps

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Post by blakesterz »

hornbaker wrote: post #20

Most of them were Japanese Americans, born in America. One wonders why German Americans weren't given similar treatment.

They were? I guess? Appears to have been different, but still done.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans

Re: Censored Photographs of FDR’s Japanese Concentration Camps

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Post by roywiggins »

cpr wrote: post #9

Just to be clear, there's zero talk of any Muslim internment other than in the fevered world of the anti-Trumpers, who are using it as a straw-bogeyman to stir people up.

A lot of the talk has come from the man himself (this is from 2015, but still)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12...

Stephanopoulos responded: "You want to bring back policies like that?"

After a pause, Trump responded: "No, I don't to bring it back, George. At all. I don't like doing it at all. It's a temporary measure until our representatives, many of whom are grossly incompetent, until our representatives can figure out what's going on."

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Post by mikeash »

hornbaker wrote: post #20

Most of them were Japanese Americans, born in America. One wonders why German Americans weren't given similar treatment.

Fun fact: Japanese Americans in Hawaii were never interned (aside from a select few) because they made up such a large portion of the population that it wouldn't have been practical. Just goes to show that the whole exercise was ridiculous.

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Post by teddyh »

roywiggins wrote: post #25
cpr wrote: post #9

Just to be clear, there's zero talk of any Muslim internment other than in the fevered world of the anti-Trumpers, who are using it as a straw-bogeyman to stir people up.

A lot of the talk has come from the man himself (this is from 2015, but still) https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12... Stephanopoulos responded: "You want to bring back policies like that?" After a pause, Trump responded: "No, I don't to bring it back, George. At all. I don't like doing it at all. It's a temporary measure until our representatives, many of whom are grossly incompetent, until o…

“It” in this case seems to refer to the “ban on Muslims entering United States”, not any internment?

Re: Censored Photographs of FDR’s Japanese Concentration Camps

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Post by randcraw »

hornbaker wrote: post #20

Most of them were Japanese Americans, born in America. One wonders why German Americans weren't given similar treatment.

Because Japanese Americans look different from "the average American", while German Americans don't.

Also, Germans had been immigrating into the US since the year 1700 and intermarried widely with other groups. So it would be very hard to decide where to draw a line and say someone is "sufficiently German" to be interned.

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