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Apple to Start Publishing AI Research

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Re: Apple to Start Publishing AI Research

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and what would it be? ... What have Apple developed that goes beyond currently available peer-reviewed work, done by Deep Mind?

That's the whole point of publishing, to share what goes beyond currently-available work. But keep in mind that DeepMind is only one institution, not the font of all things AI.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And of course, Microsoft has been in business 41 years where as Google has been 18. I'm guessing publication rates between the two are comparable. I wouldn't be surprised if IBM were similar. All three are highly committed to research.

Regardless, comparing the number of papers is meaningless. A better metric is comparing how many significant advances resulted from research funded by the company. Using the second metric, the winner in all cases - without negotiation - would be AT&T Bell Labs.

True, tho Xerox has to be up there as well.

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Of course! What researcher would want to work for a company that prohibits scientific publications? I've always been amazed by their attitude. Look at Microsoft Research, and their enormous scientific output over the years. IBM and Google look bleak by comparison, and Apple is not even on the chart.

According to Craig Federighi, senior VP of software engineering, only losers who want to pad their resumes at the expense of their company care about publishing:

“Our practices tend to reinforce a natural selection bias — those who are interested in working as a team to deliver a great product versus those whose primary motivation is publishing,” says Federighi.

https://backchannel.com/an-exclusive-look-at-how-ai-and-mach...

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Of course! What researcher would want to work for a company that prohibits scientific publications? I've always been amazed by their attitude. Look at Microsoft Research, and their enormous scientific output over the years. IBM and Google look bleak by comparison, and Apple is not even on the chart.

Was it worth it for Microsoft?

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Of course! What researcher would want to work for a company that prohibits scientific publications? I've always been amazed by their attitude. Look at Microsoft Research, and their enormous scientific output over the years. IBM and Google look bleak by comparison, and Apple is not even on the chart.

According to Craig Federighi, senior VP of software engineering, only losers who want to pad their resumes at the expense of their company care about publishing: “Our practices tend to reinforce a natural selection bias — those who are interested in working as a team to deliver a great product versus those whose primary motivation is publishing,” says Federighi. https://backchannel.com/an-exclusive-look-at-how-ai-and…

You're putting a lot of words into someones mouth here.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure how this stacks up against MS, but Google's research is posted here: https://research.google.com/pubs/papers.html

From that page, it looks like Google has published 4359 papers. From this page, https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/about/ Microsoft claims to have published over 10000 papers.

Is numbers of papers published a good metric for determining the contribution of a company to public research?

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Of course! What researcher would want to work for a company that prohibits scientific publications? I've always been amazed by their attitude. Look at Microsoft Research, and their enormous scientific output over the years. IBM and Google look bleak by comparison, and Apple is not even on the chart.

If you consider the number of papers published over the lifetime of IBM, and the fact that IBM Research does work in all levels of computing (materials science -> software), Microsoft's research output looks minuscule in comparison. But if you're considering only CS research, then you might be right. Here is a nice snapshot of the major contributions that came out of IBM Research over the past 60 years: http://www.re…

Intel is also 13 years older, has roots in research and basically started with HUGE projects like the Apollo missions.

Class of their own IMO.

Re: Apple to Start Publishing AI Research

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Story broke 6 hours ago: http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-is-finally-going-to-sta... Mac site picks it up 5 hours ago and it gets reported on HN: https://9to5mac.com/2016/12/06/apple-ai-researchers-can-publ... Bloomberg writes the same story an hour ago and it finally gets huge traction on HN. My guess is that many people ignore the "new" page and it's all a matter of luck that 3 or 4 people get it to the front p…

BusinessInsider and Mac blogs tend to be less reputable sources than Bloomberg, whose articles regularly make it to the HN front page. Might have contributed to this particular submission's success.

Re: Apple to Start Publishing AI Research

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My hope is that Apple will continue research on privacy-protecting and privacy-enhancing machine learning, because out of all the big tech companies using machine learning, they may just be the only ones to do that. Some random research for privacy technologies may come out of Google, too, but they are much less likely to actually use them at scale, especially if they conflict with ad revenue.

Re: Apple to Start Publishing AI Research

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I'm just at NIPS and Apple does indeed have a decent presence, which is a good sign (even if there are no actual publications yet). Super interesting to see how this will play out compared to their past. There's lots of criticism that we can throw at big tech companies, but the fact they many of them are so open about their research and thus are forcing others to do the same is pretty cool.
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