I was recently reading my daughter a story after being woken up too early and 'half asleep'. I kept noticing that I had invented a line of text or two, and knew that I had done this because part of my brain wasn't awake enough to focus on or perhaps read the words on the page. So one part of my brain was watching another invent plot or dialogue, while aware that another was 'asleep'. Other times I became aware that the story-supplementing part was not functioning and was able to jolt myself back to a state where I could read and recite the current line.
Portions of the brain fall asleep and wake back up all the time
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Re: Portions of the brain fall asleep and wake back up all the time
#22I think we are getting closer to furthering the concept that dreaming isn't just a side-effect of thinking (or simply a defrag/clean-up routine upon the previous day's thoughts or the mind's expectations for tomorrow). It is itself the key to the thinking process, and sits above and commands the other "agents". It helps us deal with uncertainty and lack of rationality inherent in the universe and our incomplete under…
I don't understand this obsession with the "purpose" of dreaming. As far as I have experienced its just noise on the wire that we sometimes are conscious enough to recognize. Having spent enough time in extremely sleep-deprived states for projects recently, I've experienced firsthand a lot of funky stuff going on (e.g. falling asleep and waking up with a full page of class notes in front of me, or realizing that I've…
>As far as I have experienced its just noise on the wire that we sometimes are conscious enough to recognize.
If it was actual noise it would have absolute minimal statistical chance of having any coherent structure.
Re: Portions of the brain fall asleep and wake back up all the time
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd like to extrapolate this further: We won't have true AI until mankind explains the human brain as a "form of AI"
or We won't have true AI until AI explains the human brain as a "form of AI"
We won't have true AI until AI stands on its own. Just as a bootstrapped compiler can compile itself, an AI should be capable to reinvent itself without outside help.
Until then, it's just a child-AI, dependent on human brains to be designed and optimized.
Re: Portions of the brain fall asleep and wake back up all the time
#24If our brains would work fully all the time, our head would boil and explode. I don't see how this is so new. I am glad that functioning of the brain is understood much better. Also, this could be utilized if we could find ways to increase focus, maybe even artificially, well artificially until brain gets trained for full flow state for example.
>If our brains would work fully all the time, our head would boil and explode. I don't see how this is so new.
Citation needed.
Re: Portions of the brain fall asleep and wake back up all the time
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
or We won't have true AI until AI explains the human brain as a "form of AI"
We won't have true AI until AI stands on its own. Just as a bootstrapped compiler can compile itself, an AI should be capable to reinvent itself without outside help. Until then, it's just a child-AI, dependent on human brains to be designed and optimized.
You mean like a virus?
Re: Portions of the brain fall asleep and wake back up all the time
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
or We won't have true AI until AI explains the human brain as a "form of AI"
We won't have true AI until AI stands on its own. Just as a bootstrapped compiler can compile itself, an AI should be capable to reinvent itself without outside help. Until then, it's just a child-AI, dependent on human brains to be designed and optimized.
We don't even have true consciousness so why should we have true AI. Thats not how things work IMO.
Re: Portions of the brain fall asleep and wake back up all the time
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand this obsession with the "purpose" of dreaming. As far as I have experienced its just noise on the wire that we sometimes are conscious enough to recognize. Having spent enough time in extremely sleep-deprived states for projects recently, I've experienced firsthand a lot of funky stuff going on (e.g. falling asleep and waking up with a full page of class notes in front of me, or realizing that I've…
> As far as I have experienced its just noise on the wire that we sometimes are conscious enough to recognize. If it was actual noise it would have absolute minimal statistical chance of having any coherent structure.
It's noise in brainspace, which is already structured.
Re: Portions of the brain fall asleep and wake back up all the time
#28If our brains would work fully all the time, our head would boil and explode. I don't see how this is so new. I am glad that functioning of the brain is understood much better. Also, this could be utilized if we could find ways to increase focus, maybe even artificially, well artificially until brain gets trained for full flow state for example.
>If our brains would work fully all the time, our head would boil and explode. I don't see how this is so new.
Small price to pay if it gives you an edge in the valley!
Re: Portions of the brain fall asleep and wake back up all the time
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
We won't have true AI until AI stands on its own. Just as a bootstrapped compiler can compile itself, an AI should be capable to reinvent itself without outside help. Until then, it's just a child-AI, dependent on human brains to be designed and optimized.
You mean like a virus?
Self replication and self preservation are the essence of life and evolution. There is no primary purpose to a biological system other than self preservation and replication.
Re: Portions of the brain fall asleep and wake back up all the time
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
or We won't have true AI until AI explains the human brain as a "form of AI"
We won't have true AI until AI stands on its own. Just as a bootstrapped compiler can compile itself, an AI should be capable to reinvent itself without outside help. Until then, it's just a child-AI, dependent on human brains to be designed and optimized.
But humans aren't even capable of that, and we are intelligent. It still takes a lifetime of learning and experience to create a functional human being, and many never get it right.