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Maybe Twitter isn't that popular...

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Re: Maybe Twitter isn't that popular...

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Here's an actual link to the trend - http://www.google.com/trends?q=facebook%2C+twitter&ctab=...

If you sort the Rank by Twitter, you'll see Brazil is the only place where Twitter outranks Facebook, which I would attribute to the Orkut dominance that pre-dated Facebook in that country.

Re: Maybe Twitter isn't that popular...

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Comparing to Facebook is like comparing to people who breath air. Facebook is ginormous, if you're 1/100th their size you are doing well.

And users are not everything (and people searching google are NOTHING). Twitter has had huge impact News and News gathering. Facebook is/has revolutionized the game industry (or created the casual games industry) POV.

Re: Maybe Twitter isn't that popular...

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On a related note, I've been on the partial Twitter firehose and I've only seen around 5 million unique users over a couple of months. Granted this is the partial firehose, but I'd still expect the number of uniques to approach the true number of active users over a long enough time period. I'm seeing comparitively few new users at this point. One other researcher I've talked to has similar results, anybody else gath…

I'm on the several twitter streams, totaling to around 20% of all the tweets. During a month I've got 8 million active users.

Re: Maybe Twitter isn't that popular...

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post #10

To think about it, this isn't all that surprising Facebook has to many users that a lot of people use google to get to Facebook (some just blindly clicking on the first link: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_wants_to_be_yo... ) To me it seems like Twitter just hasn't spread to the computer illiterate crowd, so this kind of graph is unsurprising.

Navigational search definitely has a lot to do with the graph. I don't think that's computer illiteracy, though. That's just how the normals use the internet ;) We techies are the fringe. http://cdixon.org/2010/01/22/techies-and-normals/ I see the navigational search as an indication of mainstream adoption.

"navigational search"... I like that

Re: Maybe Twitter isn't that popular...

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post #10

To think about it, this isn't all that surprising Facebook has to many users that a lot of people use google to get to Facebook (some just blindly clicking on the first link: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_wants_to_be_yo... ) To me it seems like Twitter just hasn't spread to the computer illiterate crowd, so this kind of graph is unsurprising.

Side note: As much as a I cringe at using google instead of the URL bar when you know the site you want to go to, I find myself doing it far more often on my phone. For example, on a mobile device, it's easier to google for "Hacker News" than type "news.ycombinator.com"

Re: Maybe Twitter isn't that popular...

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post #10

To think about it, this isn't all that surprising Facebook has to many users that a lot of people use google to get to Facebook (some just blindly clicking on the first link: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_wants_to_be_yo... ) To me it seems like Twitter just hasn't spread to the computer illiterate crowd, so this kind of graph is unsurprising.

Agreed. Not to mention countless other problems with using Google Trends numbers as a proxy for "market adoption".

Re: Maybe Twitter isn't that popular...

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post #22

Google Trends is an extremely poor source of data if you're trying to extrapolate any real-world meaning.

I don't know where this presumption comes from that Trends numbers are an accurate proxy for such-and-such metric. Even the more skeptical posts here seem to admit that Trends for "twitter" vs. "facebook" would mirror those services' market shares if it weren't for those net-illiterates googling for the Facebook login page.

Re: Maybe Twitter isn't that popular...

#30

Many underestimate the difference caused by Facebook using Real Names while Twitter uses @shortnames.

And unless you explain this in some detail, many will continue to do that.

Well, it sets the 'tone' of the site. Just like the conversation will be different with the same group of people depending on whether they're all dressed in tshirts or if they're all dressed in formalwear... in each case, they're the same people 'underneath', but the image each sees of others and each's self-image will differ.

There's an additional layer of mapping added when using shortnames - the user has to remember a whole list of "@donkey2001,Joe Smith" tuples; most people (and especially non-geeks) like and operate better with fewer layers of abstraction.

The usage of a full name on Facebook makes explicit the roughly one-to-one correspondence between accounts and actual-people that is expected by users and required by the service; Twitter users openly create multiple profiles with different names and even identities, and the service and tools encourage that. In that sense, Twitter has more of a sense of a masquerade or Halloween party and less like a business meeting or high-school reunion.

Each has its strengths and its place, and the longer I use both, the less I feel like there's direct competition between the two.

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