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The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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For a company that targets Professionals, some Apple policies seems rather hostile towards them.

I think by "professional" they do not really mean "power user" or "developer", but the stereotypically computer-illiterate user who happens to be a professional in a different field.

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The "Fun Bugs" section is really concerning. So, if you set the date on a new MacBook Pro to 1/1/1970, your MBP will fail to boot, because the OS in your keyboard still has a bug that was patched in iOS, but not in keyboardOS? I must be misreading that bit, surely?

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Another indication that Apple is no longer committed to professional customers of their computer line and their needs - iDevices get the required admin tools, but the target demographics for their computers are consumers and web dev shops where everyone tends to their systems.

I'd be good with less corporate governance on the machine they issued me, more in line with what google does. The windows machines are unusable with all the forced updating, antivirus inefficiencies, and basically spyware. The Macbooks are on their way there, though you can at least still unload the kexts today

> The windows machines are unusable with all the forced updating, antivirus inefficiencies, and basically spyware.

Hardly ever had such problems on machines I was able to manage myself.

I'm not sure what you're referring to by "forced updating"; the W10 upgrade or just regular updates?

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For a company that targets Professionals, some Apple policies seems rather hostile towards them.

I would argue that "pro" doesn't mean "user in an aggressively locked down IT department." I am a pro and I never need this.

Not all pros work in large enterprises, but a large portion of them do.

My employer (a 20,000+ employee healthcare system) issues me a MacBook Pro, but the client techs have to do heroics do manage it, compared to the Thinkpads that are normally issued. I'm happy to have the choice (I actually like the Thinkpad hardware better, but OSX is better suited to my workflow as a developer compared to Windows), but Apple certainly isn't making it easy. If they keep doing these sorts of shenanigans, it won't be long before I'm adapting my workflow to Windows 10 on a T460.

Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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The "Fun Bugs" section is really concerning. So, if you set the date on a new MacBook Pro to 1/1/1970, your MBP will fail to boot, because the OS in your keyboard still has a bug that was patched in iOS, but not in keyboardOS? I must be misreading that bit, surely?

Nope, just tried it. The machine will boot, it just takes a long time (some timeouts at play, I assume). If anything, Touch ID not working if the system time is wildly incorrect is makes me trust it more, rather than less.

Would I like the system design be more open and better documented? Sure. But if a security feature doesn't work when the clock is set 45 years in the past… is not concerning per se.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd be good with less corporate governance on the machine they issued me, more in line with what google does. The windows machines are unusable with all the forced updating, antivirus inefficiencies, and basically spyware. The Macbooks are on their way there, though you can at least still unload the kexts today

> The windows machines are unusable with all the forced updating, antivirus inefficiencies, and basically spyware. Hardly ever had such problems on machines I was able to manage myself. I'm not sure what you're referring to by "forced updating"; the W10 upgrade or just regular updates?

Are they referring to corporate policies/software forcing updates?

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Another indication that Apple is no longer committed to professional customers of their computer line and their needs - iDevices get the required admin tools, but the target demographics for their computers are consumers and web dev shops where everyone tends to their systems.

I do not know why Google doesn't just come in and absolutely dominate Apple in the 'laptop geared towards developers'-market... The Chromebook Pixel 2 is absolutely gorgeous, but it still comes with a prohibitively small SSD. They need to develop their own super-robust and sexy Linux distro and drop the ChromeOS nonsense. I just can't figure out why they aren't doing this.

Also give me photoshop because I work with PSD's plenty and I'm tempted.

Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Another indication that Apple is no longer committed to professional customers of their computer line and their needs - iDevices get the required admin tools, but the target demographics for their computers are consumers and web dev shops where everyone tends to their systems.

I do not know why Google doesn't just come in and absolutely dominate Apple in the 'laptop geared towards developers'-market... The Chromebook Pixel 2 is absolutely gorgeous, but it still comes with a prohibitively small SSD. They need to develop their own super-robust and sexy Linux distro and drop the ChromeOS nonsense. I just can't figure out why they aren't doing this.

No one thinks there is much value in the developer market?
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