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Intel Unveils Strategy for State-Of-the-Art Artificial Intelligence

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Re: Intel Unveils Strategy for State-Of-the-Art Artificial Intelligence

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I would love to hear any opinions on how one might invest in this, the no-brainer Nvidia has had a huge run already, although I wouldn't be surprised if it was double from here in a year's time.

I think there are probably efficiencies to be gained by making chips specifically designed for tensor flow rather than repurposing gpus.

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#22

For a millisecond I thought Intel were doing something new and interesting. Neuromorphic or neuromeristive architectures maybe. Nope it's just some rebranded x86 cores.

Nervana TPUs aren't rebranded x86 cores. They aren't neuromorphic either, and I don't know what neuromeristive is.

Perhaps it uses a memrister?

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#23

For a millisecond I thought Intel were doing something new and interesting. Neuromorphic or neuromeristive architectures maybe. Nope it's just some rebranded x86 cores.

Nervana TPUs aren't rebranded x86 cores. They aren't neuromorphic either, and I don't know what neuromeristive is.

Neuromorphic means brain like, so basically, super parallel.

Neuromemristive,although I haven't heard the term before, means using memristors to compute artificial neural networks.

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It really depends on how the market shapes up. You might see one software company rise to dominance where they interoperate with different platforms interchangeably, or you might see a single hardware vendor come to dominate a number of much smaller software vendors. NVidia is the horse to bet on now, but it remains to be seen how they can can expand beyond their current model of leaning heavily on their GPU technolo…

They don't necessarily have to scale down to get the benefits of AI in side smaller devices such as robotics. There's no reason why the robotics devices can't or won't be equipped with a variety of radios to facilitate communication. The AI agent can easily be somewhere centralized where power isn't a big deal. Then the robot stops being analogous to an animal with it's own brain and starts being something more like…

There could come a day when you have to sign in to Facebook to use your car, like if they get to harass you with advertising the trip's free.

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#25

I would love to hear any opinions on how one might invest in this, the no-brainer Nvidia has had a huge run already, although I wouldn't be surprised if it was double from here in a year's time.

If Intel is smart they will invest heavily into library development. Researchers use whatever is fast and right now cuda is fast, not just because nvidia has the best GPUs (it's about even) but because the primitives in cuda are so much faster. Matrix multiplication on the same hardware is like 3x faster in cuda than opencl or competing libraries and using the neutral networking primitives is even faster. Intel needs…

No, researchers use whatever is fastest for development and flexible. Otherwise we'd all be using neon.

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#26

I would love to hear any opinions on how one might invest in this, the no-brainer Nvidia has had a huge run already, although I wouldn't be surprised if it was double from here in a year's time.

If Intel is smart they will invest heavily into library development. Researchers use whatever is fast and right now cuda is fast, not just because nvidia has the best GPUs (it's about even) but because the primitives in cuda are so much faster. Matrix multiplication on the same hardware is like 3x faster in cuda than opencl or competing libraries and using the neutral networking primitives is even faster. Intel needs…

No, researchers use whatever is fastest for development and flexible. Otherwise we'd all be using neon.

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#27

I would love to hear any opinions on how one might invest in this, the no-brainer Nvidia has had a huge run already, although I wouldn't be surprised if it was double from here in a year's time.

It really depends on how the market shapes up. You might see one software company rise to dominance where they interoperate with different platforms interchangeably, or you might see a single hardware vendor come to dominate a number of much smaller software vendors. NVidia is the horse to bet on now, but it remains to be seen how they can can expand beyond their current model of leaning heavily on their GPU technolo…

Does NVidia have a solution here that scales down? Clearly they're focused on scaling up, as that's where the money is today.

Yes, they have invested heavily in this. Everytime they talk about their "car/auto segment" (which is all the time if you listen to their investor calls) it's mostly about scale-down.

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really depends on how the market shapes up. You might see one software company rise to dominance where they interoperate with different platforms interchangeably, or you might see a single hardware vendor come to dominate a number of much smaller software vendors. NVidia is the horse to bet on now, but it remains to be seen how they can can expand beyond their current model of leaning heavily on their GPU technolo…

Does NVidia have a solution here that scales down? Clearly they're focused on scaling up, as that's where the money is today. Yes, they have invested heavily in this. Everytime they talk about their "car/auto segment" (which is all the time if you listen to their investor calls) it's mostly about scale-down.

Cars, especially the sort that will need to do self-driving, will have massive batteries in them. I'm talking about Roomba-sized devices where they can't power a full GPU worth of gear.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nervana TPUs aren't rebranded x86 cores. They aren't neuromorphic either, and I don't know what neuromeristive is.

Perhaps it uses a memrister?

I think memristers are an HP thing. Intel's competing product is 3D cross point, which, according to marketing is a persistent memory technology that's higher density than DRAM and faster than flash.

Re: Intel Unveils Strategy for State-Of-the-Art Artificial Intelligence

#30

For a millisecond I thought Intel were doing something new and interesting. Neuromorphic or neuromeristive architectures maybe. Nope it's just some rebranded x86 cores.

They aren't rebranded x86 cores, This is from Nervana systems which was acquired by Intel few months back.

More details about Nervana architecture. https://www.nervanasys.com/nervana-engine-delivers-deep-lear...

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