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Michael Lewis’s ‘The Big Short’? Read the Harvard Thesis Instead

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Re: Michael Lewis’s ‘The Big Short’? Read the Harvard Thesis Instead

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What an inspiration this young woman is!

This is sure to get down-voted, but the first thing I noticed after reading about her supposed brilliance was -- she's very pretty.

And a world-class amateur violinist. And apparently something of an idealist.

I hope she continues to do good work with her many gifts. While the cynic can argue she'll get crushed by the system, occasionally good people can get in and make positive change happen.

Re: Michael Lewis’s ‘The Big Short’? Read the Harvard Thesis Instead

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I got about 10 pages into the paper and then that there's a good reason that I didn't get into Harvard. Anybody up for compiling a summary?

Go listen to the "This American Life" pieces about Magnetar and about the financial collapse. They are enjoyable and make good snapshots to get some of the same information/ideas.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/355/T...

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/405/i...

Re: Michael Lewis’s ‘The Big Short’? Read the Harvard Thesis Instead

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> Ah, the innocence of youth. Ah, the smug certainty of a Wall Street Reporter. Let's not forget how miserably the WSJ (and all other media) have failed to pick up on the gross fiscal abuse on wall street. Some modesty would be in order here! Besides, the student's suggestions are rather uncontroversial. She merely suggests that "to change wall street you have to change the incentives". How can any sensible person di…

I hardly disagree about the WSJ in general but I read the end of this article differently. The author's final question is a good one: why on earth did she take a job working for the very people whose irresponsibility her research exposed? Her answer, assuming it's sincere and not quoted out of context, is indeed naive: she's doing it to change the culture of Wall Street. Well, I agree with what I imagine the author's…

I hadn't considered that interpretation earlier (not until it was pointed out in another comment) and I agree that it's completely possible the author meant it like that -- so my attitude was not justified.

It was because of the way the author put "their irresponsible underwriting practices" in quotes in the just before the conclusion that set the tone for me, but once again, I should not have jumped to conclusions.

Re: Michael Lewis’s ‘The Big Short’? Read the Harvard Thesis Instead

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From Michael Blum's letter to Bernanke: "CDOs are like love. When they're good, they're great, but when they're bad, watch out."

The linked paper itself is quite easy to read, though at 115 pages I didn't make it through the whole thing and resorted to skipping around. I'd love to see the tables of results put in perspective with a better visualization.

Re: Michael Lewis’s ‘The Big Short’? Read the Harvard Thesis Instead

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is sure to get down-voted, but the first thing I noticed after reading about her supposed brilliance was -- she's very pretty.

And a world-class amateur violinist. And apparently something of an idealist. I hope she continues to do good work with her many gifts. While the cynic can argue she'll get crushed by the system, occasionally good people can get in and make positive change happen.

She could kick ass as a quant, but I don't see her moving up the ranks in IBD or M&A. She's (1) very intelligent, which works against you in that sort of conformist environment, (2) a woman, and (3) not from the "right kind of family" (I know nothing about her background, but she actually worked in college). In other words, she's just too good to be an investment banker.

Re: Michael Lewis’s ‘The Big Short’? Read the Harvard Thesis Instead

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post #6

> Ah, the innocence of youth. Ah, the smug certainty of a Wall Street Reporter. Let's not forget how miserably the WSJ (and all other media) have failed to pick up on the gross fiscal abuse on wall street. Some modesty would be in order here! Besides, the student's suggestions are rather uncontroversial. She merely suggests that "to change wall street you have to change the incentives". How can any sensible person di…

Hey dont kill the messanger, I bet in 10 years she will laugh at her vision of people on business, if her vision were right the world would be a fairy tale.

I hope she or anyone can change it, but the more I understand of people the more corruption I see, at least were big money its involved. Sad but true.

Re: Michael Lewis’s ‘The Big Short’? Read the Harvard Thesis Instead

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fannie and Freddie actually lost market share as the bubble really got going. They were prohibited from getting into most subprime, and tried to get around their regulations. Wall Street was the driver in buying up these shitty mortgages to put into MBS/CDOs -- and quite a few big banks bought mortage originators so they could get bigger margin on these deals. Unfortunately for them Wall Street couldn't find buyers f…

Fannie and Freddie bought a lot of subprime. I had friends that worked there and told me so and I've read about it. Over the long term Fannie made a lot of people rich. Read Beating the Street by Peter Lynch. He made a fortune off Fannie. Taxpayers will pay, unfortunately. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08... Without Fannie and Freddie and the backing by the US taxpayer Wall Street would no…

Maybe, but the underlying problems were the bad ratings assignments, shady conflicts of interest, and companies figuring out they could drive demand while betting against that demand.

Re: Michael Lewis’s ‘The Big Short’? Read the Harvard Thesis Instead

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From Michael Blum's letter to Bernanke: "CDOs are like love. When they're good, they're great, but when they're bad, watch out." The linked paper itself is quite easy to read, though at 115 pages I didn't make it through the whole thing and resorted to skipping around. I'd love to see the tables of results put in perspective with a better visualization.

Were there any good CDOs? An interesting aspect (in retrospect) of The Big Short is that some people spent huge effort determining which ones were worth shorting and other people seemed to make just as much money indiscriminately shorting all of them.

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post #6

> Ah, the innocence of youth. Ah, the smug certainty of a Wall Street Reporter. Let's not forget how miserably the WSJ (and all other media) have failed to pick up on the gross fiscal abuse on wall street. Some modesty would be in order here! Besides, the student's suggestions are rather uncontroversial. She merely suggests that "to change wall street you have to change the incentives". How can any sensible person di…

I hardly disagree about the WSJ in general but I read the end of this article differently. The author's final question is a good one: why on earth did she take a job working for the very people whose irresponsibility her research exposed? Her answer, assuming it's sincere and not quoted out of context, is indeed naive: she's doing it to change the culture of Wall Street. Well, I agree with what I imagine the author's…

>Sadly, many young people overestimate how resilient they will be to a culture they abhor, which is how they get sucked in and assimilated. The risks to the beast are negligible compared to the risks to her soul (if this were a movie we'd all be yelling Nooooooooo...) and she's not unusual in underestimating this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Darkness :-)

Re: Michael Lewis’s ‘The Big Short’? Read the Harvard Thesis Instead

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It's really sad that someone as talented as she is ended up at an investment bank. If she's an analyst, instead of a direct promote to associate at the very least, I think I'm going to barf blood.

it's a standard, socially acceptable, not-very-risky-if-you-come-from-the-right-pedigree path to wealth/power.
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