2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats • Hacker News Board

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by api » Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 5:44 PM UTC

This is starting to sound like the Windows Vista of Macs. :(

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by asragab » Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 5:45 PM UTC

I really appreciated the no nonsense, non-editorialized description of his experiences. Given the recent political climate, it is a nice change of pace.

The external monitor and wifi issues seem egregious, could these be OS related issues?

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by ProAm » Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 5:45 PM UTC

It just works...

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by heisenbit » Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 5:46 PM UTC

Ouch, does that mean my Thunderbolt display is of no use in the future? Any idea how to continue to use it?

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by andrewfromx » Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 5:46 PM UTC

fyi Control-C = Esc in vim. So the new mac without real esc key just means leaning to do control-c vs. esc if u can't stand the virtual esc key.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by mikeash » Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 5:46 PM UTC

lvh wrote: post #17

mikeash wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would just be a single cable plus an adapter. The monitor cable has DP on one end and mini-DP on the other end. Thunderbolt 3 uses the USB-C connector and is what the ports on the MacBook are. So it's: Display -> DP to mini-DP cable -> TB2 to TB3 -> MacBook. Or, one extra step than the old MacBook needed, if only it actually worked.

Just wanted to confirm that you are correct :) The AppleCare support people suggested I had "too many dongles" -- cheekily, I agree; I would be very happy with zero!

Since USB-C does DisplayPort directly, can you use a cable that has USB-C on one end and DP on the other end? Or is DP over USB-C sufficiently different that you need some sort of active adapter?

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by lvh » Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 5:47 PM UTC

asragab wrote: post #22

I really appreciated the no nonsense, non-editorialized description of his experiences. Given the recent political climate, it is a nice change of pace. The external monitor and wifi issues seem egregious, could these be OS related issues?

Thanks!

My understanding is that the TB2/3 dongle issue is a hardware limitation; although I'm hopeful the WiFi issues with older USB-C devices will go away.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by pilif » Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 5:47 PM UTC

heisenbit wrote: post #24

Ouch, does that mean my Thunderbolt display is of no use in the future? Any idea how to continue to use it?

If it's a Thunderbolt display, it'll work.

If it's a Mini DisplayPort display (which uses the exact same connector as Thunderbolt), then it won't work.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by JustSomeNobody » Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 5:47 PM UTC

kbd wrote: post #2

Some people have also reported hours less battery life than advertised.

this is one reason i'm staying with El Cap on my 2014 rMBP. I see where a lot of people are losing 10-20% battery. that's not insignificant.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by Caballera » Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 5:48 PM UTC

Tom1971 wrote: post #8

While, over time, a lot of today's annoyances with the new Macabook's will fade away, the lack of ESC key is a deal breaker for me. I tried it at the Apple Store and it's pretty much unusable. (It had the seen issue as the writer, apparently relying on the physical click to know whether or not I had pressed it. In addition, I also mistyped it a lot. Maybe hack to replace the whole touch bar as one single ESC key will…

The escape key is still there, it's on the Touch Bar, I have no issues with using it, and I haven't had to re-map it. Also you can hit the 'fn' key and the 'Function' bar and escape key will appear while using any other 'app' that changes the Touch Bar.