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The Rise and Fall of the Open Source Mobile (2014)

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Re: The Rise and Fall of the Open Source Mobile (2014)

#21
I want a unix phone.

I want a dialer command that can be used with pipes and stdio.

I want to consume "signal strength" with AT+CSQ from a command that I can pipe into things.

I want to see nearby towers in a 'top' like interface that shows me what the local carrier environment looks like. I want to enable and disable airplane mode with a command.

It would seem like you could do this with android, but I don't think you can ...

Re: The Rise and Fall of the Open Source Mobile (2014)

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Related project: https://pyra-handheld.com/

Mandatory warning: PowerVR.

ImgTec are still trying to hire someone to work on open source powervr drivers:

https://careers.imgtec.com/cw/en/job/495752/linux-graphics-d...

Re: The Rise and Fall of the Open Source Mobile (2014)

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post #21

I want a unix phone. I want a dialer command that can be used with pipes and stdio. I want to consume "signal strength" with AT+CSQ from a command that I can pipe into things. I want to see nearby towers in a 'top' like interface that shows me what the local carrier environment looks like. I want to enable and disable airplane mode with a command . It would seem like you could do this with android, but I don't think…

Android phones run Linux and most have busybox/toybox installed, which gives you a form of Unix.

The rest of what you want needs a bit of coding but should be possible to do, just need to interface with the RIL.

Re: The Rise and Fall of the Open Source Mobile (2014)

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post #21

I want a unix phone. I want a dialer command that can be used with pipes and stdio. I want to consume "signal strength" with AT+CSQ from a command that I can pipe into things. I want to see nearby towers in a 'top' like interface that shows me what the local carrier environment looks like. I want to enable and disable airplane mode with a command . It would seem like you could do this with android, but I don't think…

Android phones run Linux and most have busybox/toybox installed, which gives you a form of Unix. The rest of what you want needs a bit of coding but should be possible to do, just need to interface with the RIL.

Let me clarify ...

I want to control the phone with unix. I want to perform telephony functions with the command line.

I want to place calls with a command line. I want to redirect stdio into an SMS. I want to query provider/signal/encryption/service with sysctls.

And so on ...

I don't think many unix cellular telephony tools exist, do they ?

Re: The Rise and Fall of the Open Source Mobile (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That might be the first hardware crowdfunding I ever buy into. I've got a seething rage at just about every aspect of current phones and a huge nostalgia for Nokia's early smartphones. Physical keyboard? Yay. Messages in natural language are one thing, ssh'ing into a machine or writing code is an entirely different topic. Open systems thrive with exactly the kind of software I use almost exclusively. I can live witho…

Related project: https://pyra-handheld.com/

I pre-ordered as I am a very happy OpenPandora owner. It's a full Linux (especially now that I have Debian on it) and I can VNC or SSH with tablets and phones to it. When closed it consumes very little battery, it has tons of games and I can do full dev on it. The only annoying thing for me is an ARM thing; GHCi still doesn't seem to work on ARM, but that's a minor annoyance and last I check it is close to getting there.

Edit: to be honest; the Pyra is almost perfect for me (when using it with a $30 Android tablet as monitor it is very close). Currently my perfect all day computer would be a 10 inch tablet running (native) Linux with a stand, 3g and 15+ hrs battery life. I really like the MS foldable mobile keyboard but the only Linux ready stuff are full laptops or chromebooks. The chromebooks have no 3g unfortunately.

Re: The Rise and Fall of the Open Source Mobile (2014)

#27
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Android phones run Linux and most have busybox/toybox installed, which gives you a form of Unix. The rest of what you want needs a bit of coding but should be possible to do, just need to interface with the RIL.

Let me clarify ... I want to control the phone with unix. I want to perform telephony functions with the command line. I want to place calls with a command line. I want to redirect stdio into an SMS. I want to query provider/signal/encryption/service with sysctls. And so on ... I don't think many unix cellular telephony tools exist, do they ?

Closest thing I can think of is the Emacs interface to the freesmartphone.org (FSO) DBus APIs:

https://github.com/paulfertser/fso-el/wiki

You can always manually send DBus messages to the FSO/oFono daemons, here is an example for oFono:

https://together.jolla.com/question/17992/sending-an-sms-via...

I expect similar things are possible with Android RILs.

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