In 63 days Trump will inherit mass surveillance from Obama • Hacker News Board

Re: In 63 days Trump will inherit mass surveillance from Obama

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Post by throwaway274739 » Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 12:31 AM UTC

About a week ago, I told myself I'd give Trump a chance. Since then, he's appointed a vile white-supremacist as his right hand man, vowed to ethnically cleanse undocumented peole of Mexican descent, start a registry/interment camps of Muslims. Suffice to say, that chance has been given and horribly failed.

I'm scared shitless.

Re: In 63 days Trump will inherit mass surveillance from Obama

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Post by sooheon » Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 3:14 AM UTC

gyoza wrote: post #19

djschnei wrote: post #6

Cracks me up this is presented like "Obama, come on, we know you're a good guy. Pleassssse". Give me a break... Barack loves extrajudicial powers. This is the problem with large, powerful governments. Sooner or later, the other guys will have the power. If you voted for Obama (ESPECIALLY twice) and you're worried about Trump having power over the NSA, I am laughing at you.

You do realize the bush administration started this entire thing right? Get your facts right. https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline

Nowhere did your parent claim Obama created the surveillance state. Only that he loves taking advantage of it, which is true. For the same reasons he has shown no leniency to Manning or Snowden.

Re: In 63 days Trump will inherit mass surveillance from Obama

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Post by djschnei » Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 3:10 PM UTC

gyoza wrote: post #19

djschnei wrote: post #6

Cracks me up this is presented like "Obama, come on, we know you're a good guy. Pleassssse". Give me a break... Barack loves extrajudicial powers. This is the problem with large, powerful governments. Sooner or later, the other guys will have the power. If you voted for Obama (ESPECIALLY twice) and you're worried about Trump having power over the NSA, I am laughing at you.

You do realize the bush administration started this entire thing right? Get your facts right. https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline

like sooheon correctly pointed out, I never said Obama started the program (and let's be honest, Bush didn't mastermind it either). However, acting like Obama has done anything but completely turn his back on his 2008 campaign "promises" is foolish. He ran against these programs, than immediately gave the middle finger to everyone that believed him. He's expanded and entrenched the surveillance state. Period.

Re: In 63 days Trump will inherit mass surveillance from Obama

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Post by djschnei » Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 3:14 PM UTC

barneygumble742 wrote: post #17

wtvanhest wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or more responsible. We don't know anything yet.

Apparently, trump and his entourage are keeping an enemies list.

Are you worried about him ordering extrajudicial assassinations? Cause Obama has done that.

Re: In 63 days Trump will inherit mass surveillance from Obama

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Post by jackskell » Sat, Nov 19, 2016, 6:23 PM UTC

I guess it's only ok when YOUR GUY runs ramshod over the Constitution...

It's really telling about intentions, particularly in view of registries, or lists, where it's perfectly ok to keep a master list of gun purchasers, but not illegal aliens (or apparently, even visa holders). We were told "what's the harm in a list". Looks like we knew what what your intentions were the whole time for the list... Action against those people when possible or politically expedient...

Re: In 63 days Trump will inherit mass surveillance from Obama

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Post by zaccus » Mon, Nov 21, 2016, 6:56 PM UTC

djschnei wrote: post #6

Cracks me up this is presented like "Obama, come on, we know you're a good guy. Pleassssse". Give me a break... Barack loves extrajudicial powers. This is the problem with large, powerful governments. Sooner or later, the other guys will have the power. If you voted for Obama (ESPECIALLY twice) and you're worried about Trump having power over the NSA, I am laughing at you.

What, was I supposed to vote for Romney? You think Mitt Romney was going to roll back mass surveillance?