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Re: HyperNormalisation trailer [video]

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Post by noobermin » Sun, Nov 13, 2016, 2:06 AM UTC

napsterbr wrote: post #10

Regardless of your political opinion about the video, there's a shortish part where Adam Curtis talks about Cyberspace and the cyberpunk movement. As a big fan of William Gibson's work, I've found that part alone well worth the time. I'm sure there are a lot of fellow cyberpunk fans here, so this is my advice: if you are not interested by the political aspect of the documentary, the Cyberspace bit is worth your time…

Trying to be careful with "political opinion" is almost antithetical to the point of the video. Let the medium speak for itself.

Re: HyperNormalisation trailer [video]

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Post by noobermin » Sun, Nov 13, 2016, 2:07 AM UTC

badminton1 wrote: post #2

I watched it. Now, I don't really think there's a hidden power governing everything. It's just the path of least resistance and we are following it.

I think that was the point of the video and was my perspective all along, it's just you learn how little parts are connected...not by intention but by coincidence.

Re: HyperNormalisation trailer [video]

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Post by noobermin » Sun, Nov 13, 2016, 2:09 AM UTC

intopieces wrote: post #5

I haven't been able to verify the Syria link to the Lockerbie bombing. Anyone able to help me out?

Google: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103

Re: HyperNormalisation trailer [video]

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Post by wycx » Sun, Nov 13, 2016, 3:46 AM UTC

smcl wrote: post #15

RileyJames wrote: post #6

I watched this after it was last posted to hacker news. The footage from the BBC archives is excellent and the narrative it strings together is compelling. Any other books or movies that expand on similar topics?

Bitter Lake is another film by the same person (Adam Curtis) film I think you'd like

I think Curtis' most underrated series is The Mayfair Set. It certainly planted a seed in me regarding interest in economic history. Not to mention, "We built this city on high yield bonds".

Re: HyperNormalisation trailer [video]

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Post by soufron » Sun, Nov 13, 2016, 9:49 AM UTC

joblessjunkie wrote: post #19

soufron wrote: post #17

I liked the movie, but I was upset by the heavy amount of conspiracy he put in, and also the fact that he considered alternate theories on events as if they were the only ones worthy of attention. I am thinking about his description of the bombings as false flags destined to put the blame on gaddafi instead of syria. The main counter-intelligence on these was due to italian secret services, but further information ob…

I also spent a lot of my time watching the film trying to sort out how much is truth, and how much is propaganda or deliberate misinformation. However, I think this also exactly the point this film is making about our modern media and political environment, which makes the film all the more effective and terrifying.

So you think he did it on purpose and made a sort of mockumentary?

Re: HyperNormalisation trailer [video]

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Post by madaxe_again » Sun, Nov 13, 2016, 10:24 AM UTC

freshhawk wrote: post #13

madaxe_again wrote: post #8

If you enjoyed this, Jean Baudrillard's Simulacra and Simulation is what he has drawn heavily upon. He talks extensively about the "hyperreal" mental reality we exist within. If you enjoyed that, you might like Phil K Dick's existential works like Flow my tears , cantata 140 , hell anything of his almost. Even "the defenders" is a full on frontal assault on reality. Finally, if you want to go clean off the deep end,…

Oh man, Valis is the most interesting piece of physicalized mental illness I've ever experienced. I think it helps to already be very familiar with Dick's style when you read it. And I'll also second all the rest of these recommendations as well.

Although it might be worth mentioning that it's somewhat contagious. Keep on squinting at the Black Iron Prison.

Re: HyperNormalisation trailer [video]

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Post by smcl » Sun, Nov 13, 2016, 10:54 AM UTC

wycx wrote: post #24

smcl wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bitter Lake is another film by the same person (Adam Curtis) film I think you'd like

I think Curtis' most underrated series is The Mayfair Set. It certainly planted a seed in me regarding interest in economic history. Not to mention, "We built this city on high yield bonds".

After I posted my comment I found a huge playlist of Curtis films on Youtube, and worked my way through The Mayfair Set - very enjoyable, but I feel a bit dirty afterwards (there's a lot of shady goings on and seedy people, it feels infectious)

Re: HyperNormalisation trailer [video]

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Post by joblessjunkie » Wed, Nov 16, 2016, 7:12 PM UTC

soufron wrote: post #25

joblessjunkie wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also spent a lot of my time watching the film trying to sort out how much is truth, and how much is propaganda or deliberate misinformation. However, I think this also exactly the point this film is making about our modern media and political environment, which makes the film all the more effective and terrifying.

So you think he did it on purpose and made a sort of mockumentary?

I do not believe it was a mockumentary or wheels-within-wheels meta-commentary.

I was just struck by the irony that all the accusations leveled by the filmmaker at the media and our government also apply to this film itself.