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Re: Y Combinator blacklists founder of Gab.ai

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Not to sound conspiratorial, but isn't Gab.ai trying to market itself as a censorship-free twitter clone for alt-right types? If so, what better way to generate brand awareness and users than by picking fights with liberals?

Re: Y Combinator blacklists founder of Gab.ai

#24

Freedom of speech does not mean one is free from the consequences of speech. This is something a lot of young folks don't seem to understand. You can say anything you want. Go for it. And you will own the consequences of what you said, whatever they might be. I offer this as a general comment. Not taking sides on the issue highlighted by the post. I simply think it is important to point out this reality in case it is…

"Freedom of speech does not mean one is free from the consequences of speech."

Not sure this makes sense. It's like saying you are free to murder someone. But then you have to live with the consequences. Which leads the concept of freedom ad absurdum.

My point is that freedom of speech has never been unlimited. In my country it is slightly more restrictive than in the US but even the US does not have a 100% perfect freedom of speech. And that is a good(!) thing.

Re: Y Combinator blacklists founder of Gab.ai

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recently? I'll give you one: Clint Eastwood. Yes, they control hashtags. It is a censorship issue. They lie about what's trending, every, single, day. There's a global problem with Twitter censorship, to the point it has a Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Twitter

1) The Clint Eastwood case seems to be a fake account: http://nypost.com/2016/11/10/clint-eastwoods-twitter-account... , which doesn't entirely answer the question of why it was banned, but definitely muddies the waters. Do you have an example of someone not potentially impersonating a celebrity? 2) The Wikipedia page primarily concerns cases where Twitter is ordered to engage in censorship by other countries, not Tw…

Brittany Pettibone offered evidence that Twitter is shadow-banning her, here:

https://twitter.com/BrittPettibone/status/797186228894322688

Re: Y Combinator blacklists founder of Gab.ai

#26

Freedom of speech does not mean one is free from the consequences of speech. This is something a lot of young folks don't seem to understand. You can say anything you want. Go for it. And you will own the consequences of what you said, whatever they might be. I offer this as a general comment. Not taking sides on the issue highlighted by the post. I simply think it is important to point out this reality in case it is…

"Freedom of speech does not mean one is free from the consequences of speech." Not sure this makes sense. It's like saying you are free to murder someone. But then you have to live with the consequences. Which leads the concept of freedom ad absurdum. My point is that freedom of speech has never been unlimited. In my country it is slightly more restrictive than in the US but even the US does not have a 100% perfect f…

It means that you can say anything you want [within narrow and specific legal limits] but so can everyone else. Freedom of speech =/= freedom from criticism or freedom from censure. Censorship by the government is prohibited but censorship by a private entity like YC is perfectly legal.

Re: Y Combinator blacklists founder of Gab.ai

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post #16

well even if his ban wasn't deserved... he made it deserving, just watching his twitter account (not facebook etc), looks like he is somebody that is not a great guy and can't stand such things. I mean he actually posted a picture of him self and his middlefinger pointing at ycombinator?! seriously he is a hater and not somebody that should be taken seriously. insulting people or a group of people is not free speech…

> insulting people or a group of people is not free speech anymore it's actually a crime.

This is incorrect. https://popehat.com/2016/06/11/hello-youve-been-referred-her...

Re: Y Combinator blacklists founder of Gab.ai

#28
post #7

From the screenshot he himself provided [1], it looks like he was confronted about making people at YC feel unsafe, and responded by saying they "shouldn't be on the internet". Contrarian views are one thing. Addressing the people who fund your company like a belligerent troll is another. You're entitled to free speech, you're not entitled to a captive ear to hear it. [1] http://i.imgur.com/ReFx2Mr.png

> You're entitled to free speech, you're not entitled to a captive ear to hear it.

Ironically a captive ear is exactly what SJW's demand, and if you fail to oblige you're a (delete as appropriate) straight/white/male/able-bodied/cis-gendered/dudebro who is "part of the problem" and "literally Hitler". I'm so disappointed in how partisan YC has become, capitulating completely to prevailing meme of SJWs. It's becoming less about "make something people want" and more "care about what people think".

Re: Y Combinator blacklists founder of Gab.ai

#29
post #7

From the screenshot he himself provided [1], it looks like he was confronted about making people at YC feel unsafe, and responded by saying they "shouldn't be on the internet". Contrarian views are one thing. Addressing the people who fund your company like a belligerent troll is another. You're entitled to free speech, you're not entitled to a captive ear to hear it. [1] http://i.imgur.com/ReFx2Mr.png

Usually when people make this argument they're wrong, but not in this case. I'm disturbed by OP's low-quality trolling.

When you're a dissident or ideological minority in any context, it's absolutely essential at all times to be the kindest, gentlest, sweetest person in the room. That way, when they ban you for "feeling unsafe," it's obvious to everyone what's going on.

Obviously OP wasn't actually a danger to anyone. That's ridiculous. But there isn't any world where you can be a dissident and also be a dick, and get away with it.

Re: Y Combinator blacklists founder of Gab.ai

#30
post #16

well even if his ban wasn't deserved... he made it deserving, just watching his twitter account (not facebook etc), looks like he is somebody that is not a great guy and can't stand such things. I mean he actually posted a picture of him self and his middlefinger pointing at ycombinator?! seriously he is a hater and not somebody that should be taken seriously. insulting people or a group of people is not free speech…

> insulting people or a group of people is not free speech anymore it's actually a crime. This is incorrect. https://popehat.com/2016/06/11/hello-youve-been-referred-her...

well maybe not in america. in my country (germany) you get into jail for insulting, see StGB (§ 185 Beleidigung).

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=h...

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