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Peter Thiel’s Bet on Donald Trump Pays Off

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Re: Peter Thiel’s Bet on Donald Trump Pays Off

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...and now every other executive in SV is pushing for Calexit. It would be something if the end result of Thiel backing Trump is that Silicon Valley ceases to be part of the United States.

The balkanization of the united states would to lead foreign powers interfering and another civil war. It will never happen, same reasons the texit never happened.

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I remember the last Thiel thread was a holy war filled with people who thought outspoken Trump supporters should lose their careers on grounds of bigotry and hate speech propagation (citing https://xkcd.com/1357/ among other things). Revisiting that thread with the knowledge that Trump would win and that Trump supporters were not some vocal minority is sobering.

Look at the numbers; they're still a vocal minority, they're just ones who vote as a bloc and have the geographic advantage. Trump got less than Romney after all. The real story is that with more than half of the country sitting out the voting process, the winner is always going to be decided by a "vocal minority".

As it should be, if you're not passionate enough to get to the polls and stand in line for a few minutes then you shouldn't have a voice in the election.

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Psst. 59,704,886 If you can't do basic arithmetic, you should lose your career in this field, imo.

And if you think ~half of the country is so horribly racist or sexist they should lose their jobs on grounds of bigotry and hate speech you've got bigger problems than the ability to do math. People just want change and Trump's offering more than just discrimination, he did well amongst white women and beat Romney's numbers with many non-white demographic groups. He might not be my first choice, but I won't discredit…

lol I never said that. I said people who work in computer science who say that <50% is a majority have a serious problem with math and should look for work elsewhere given the nature of our field.

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...and now every other executive in SV is pushing for Calexit. It would be something if the end result of Thiel backing Trump is that Silicon Valley ceases to be part of the United States.

LOL, Silicon Valley thrives on Wallstreet's dollars, they'd leave and the whole ship would sink within the first hour.

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And if you think ~half of the country is so horribly racist or sexist they should lose their jobs on grounds of bigotry and hate speech you've got bigger problems than the ability to do math. People just want change and Trump's offering more than just discrimination, he did well amongst white women and beat Romney's numbers with many non-white demographic groups. He might not be my first choice, but I won't discredit…

lol I never said that. I said people who work in computer science who say that <50% is a majority have a serious problem with math and should look for work elsewhere given the nature of our field.

Fair enough, I thought you were trying to imply that because Clinton has the popular vote that that sort of opinion is okay.

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> The real story is that with more than half of the country sitting out the voting process Are you surprised by that? Properly voting costs a lot of money. I spent hours researching my options and another hour just walking to and from the voting dropoff location. When you add up all the time it takes to research an election and vote, multiply that by your personal time value of money, multiply that by the probability…

"multiply that by the probability that it will change the election and then multiply it by the benefit of having 1 candidate over the other on your personal economic outlook" No you can't just loop that in there. The cost of walking to and from the polling location, fine, but these kinds of costs are the costs you have to pay to live in a democracy. I waited in line for over an hour before work. If I extrapolate my s…

That would be a good response, except you can still live in a democracy without voting. You're just accepting that generally a plurality of the voting population will make a reasonable decision rather than saying you need to take part in that yourself every time.

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Look at the numbers; they're still a vocal minority, they're just ones who vote as a bloc and have the geographic advantage. Trump got less than Romney after all. The real story is that with more than half of the country sitting out the voting process, the winner is always going to be decided by a "vocal minority".

> The real story is that with more than half of the country sitting out the voting process Are you surprised by that? Properly voting costs a lot of money. I spent hours researching my options and another hour just walking to and from the voting dropoff location. When you add up all the time it takes to research an election and vote, multiply that by your personal time value of money, multiply that by the probability…

Can you expand on having to walk an hour to the 'voting dropoff location'? Firstly, do you mean where you actually vote and secondly is this an urban location?

I'm interested as having lived in two countries with different electoral systems (UK and Australia) and in urban and rural locations I never had to walk more than a few hundred yards to a polling booth (urban) or I could park pretty close (rural).

I also noticed that news coverage of the election was showing very long lines, is this a typical experience for voters in US?

Re: Peter Thiel’s Bet on Donald Trump Pays Off

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"multiply that by the probability that it will change the election and then multiply it by the benefit of having 1 candidate over the other on your personal economic outlook" No you can't just loop that in there. The cost of walking to and from the polling location, fine, but these kinds of costs are the costs you have to pay to live in a democracy. I waited in line for over an hour before work. If I extrapolate my s…

That would be a good response, except you can still live in a democracy without voting. You're just accepting that generally a plurality of the voting population will make a reasonable decision rather than saying you need to take part in that yourself every time.

I'm not sure how this is related to the cost/benefit of voting? Yes you can not vote and still live here. And? (I'm not trying to be argumentative, just don't understand).

Re: Peter Thiel’s Bet on Donald Trump Pays Off

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...and now every other executive in SV is pushing for Calexit. It would be something if the end result of Thiel backing Trump is that Silicon Valley ceases to be part of the United States.

LOL, Silicon Valley thrives on Wallstreet's dollars, they'd leave and the whole ship would sink within the first hour.

Well, they're not "Wallstreet's dollars", it is international capital and it is happy to invest anywhere so long as it believes it will get a return. Possibly even happier to invest in an independent California if the government is likely to be beholden to its needs.
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