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Whatever happened to Japanese laptops?

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Re: Whatever happened to Japanese laptops?

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I think Japan is going to be one of the first markets to see laptop sales dry up almost completely. Most people are fine with their iPhones. Where I work, all developers use macbooks and everyone else uses a thinkpad. A lot of other laptop models, like a lot of tech in Japan, is targeted at the Japanese market only. Dynabooks are the budget windows machine of choice at the moment, it seems. Although most young people…

Really not trying to start an OS war but for the sake of accuracy Android is the dominant mobile OS in Japan, not iPhone.

This is from last year, so could have changed, but Q4 2015 web traffic was 66% iOS vs 34% Android in Japan:

https://deviceatlas.com/blog/android-vs-ios-market-share-201...

Re: Whatever happened to Japanese laptops?

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I thought this would be about the tiny models like the Toshiba Libretto

My drinking buddy in the early 2000's carried his libretto around in big baggy jeans pockets so he could pull it out and code on his game any time he was out and about and had a free moment. I always thought that was so 1337.

Re: Whatever happened to Japanese laptops?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you aren't trying to start a war, please provide a citation to back this up so there can be no dispute.

3rd party citation after searching "dominant OS Japan" in google https://www.statista.com/statistics/260415/market-share-held... Android 64.6%

Looking at the pattern: if the statistic would end in autumn instead of summer, then iOS could also have come up on top.

Re: Whatever happened to Japanese laptops?

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One thing likely contributed to their downfall was US manufactures moved operations overseas and many Japanese manufacturers kept production in Japan making them expensive to the Us market --that and Apple and others catching up in terms of "sleekness" and aesthetics. People would buy Vaios despite poor hardware because they were thin and looked cool.

>that and Apple and others catching up in terms of "sleekness" and aesthetics.

Wasn't Apple always ahead of the Japanese laptops in terms of sleekness and aesthetics?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

3rd party citation after searching "dominant OS Japan" in google https://www.statista.com/statistics/260415/market-share-held... Android 64.6%

Looking at the pattern: if the statistic would end in autumn instead of summer, then iOS could also have come up on top.

How can market share dramatically swing between 30% and 60% like it's doing in this chart?

Is this bad data? Is the market expanding & contracting so greatly that existing users are a minority of future marketshare?

Re: Whatever happened to Japanese laptops?

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One thing likely contributed to their downfall was US manufactures moved operations overseas and many Japanese manufacturers kept production in Japan making them expensive to the Us market --that and Apple and others catching up in terms of "sleekness" and aesthetics. People would buy Vaios despite poor hardware because they were thin and looked cool.

> that and Apple and others catching up in terms of "sleekness" and aesthetics. Wasn't Apple always ahead of the Japanese laptops in terms of sleekness and aesthetics?

No, not always. The Sony Vaio was attractive enough back in its day that Steve Jobs offered Sony to run Mac OS on them (which they declined).

Re: Whatever happened to Japanese laptops?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looking at the pattern: if the statistic would end in autumn instead of summer, then iOS could also have come up on top.

How can market share dramatically swing between 30% and 60% like it's doing in this chart? Is this bad data? Is the market expanding & contracting so greatly that existing users are a minority of future marketshare?

> How can market share dramatically swing

You pay for results?

Re: Whatever happened to Japanese laptops?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looking at the pattern: if the statistic would end in autumn instead of summer, then iOS could also have come up on top.

How can market share dramatically swing between 30% and 60% like it's doing in this chart? Is this bad data? Is the market expanding & contracting so greatly that existing users are a minority of future marketshare?

The data is bad.

I have a lot of insight into the apps side of things, and Android is somewhat smaller than iOS in Japan, both on revenue and downloads.

Re: Whatever happened to Japanese laptops?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you aren't trying to start a war, please provide a citation to back this up so there can be no dispute.

3rd party citation after searching "dominant OS Japan" in google https://www.statista.com/statistics/260415/market-share-held... Android 64.6%

This data looks bad and not in line with other reports:

https://deviceatlas.com/blog/android-vs-ios-market-share-201... http://techjapan.tumblr.com/post/42142826707/why-iphone-mark...

According to our internal data which tallies tens of millions of app store installs on Android vs iOS, iOS both gets more downloads & revenue than Android in Japan.

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