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Re: Ask Hacker News: Cost of living in Silicon Valley

#21
Please poke holes in this idea:

1. Save up some dollars

2. Move to a city in India that has good infrastructure (Coimbatore is the city I have in mind) =$1200

3. Release and iterate till you get good traction =$200/month/person

4. Move to Silicon Valley do the mating dance etc =$1200

Personal burn rate while at India would be as low as $200 per month without compromising on any comfort.

After success, I plan to buy a big house there where visiting hackers can stay for free :-)

Re: Ask Hacker News: Cost of living in Silicon Valley

#22

Please poke holes in this idea: 1. Save up some dollars 2. Move to a city in India that has good infrastructure (Coimbatore is the city I have in mind) =$1200 3. Release and iterate till you get good traction =$200/month/person 4. Move to Silicon Valley do the mating dance etc =$1200 Personal burn rate while at India would be as low as $200 per month without compromising on any comfort. After success, I plan to buy a…

Actually a fantastic idea for the adventurous - The only thing I have issue with in the Indian sub-continent is the finicky electricity infrastructure - During my last few visits, the power went down randomly throughout the day, especially in the, very hot, summers; Granted some days are better than others, but if you can put up with it, the cost of living is a fraction of what it is here.

Re: Ask Hacker News: Cost of living in Silicon Valley

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post #22

Please poke holes in this idea: 1. Save up some dollars 2. Move to a city in India that has good infrastructure (Coimbatore is the city I have in mind) =$1200 3. Release and iterate till you get good traction =$200/month/person 4. Move to Silicon Valley do the mating dance etc =$1200 Personal burn rate while at India would be as low as $200 per month without compromising on any comfort. After success, I plan to buy a…

Actually a fantastic idea for the adventurous - The only thing I have issue with in the Indian sub-continent is the finicky electricity infrastructure - During my last few visits, the power went down randomly throughout the day, especially in the, very hot, summers; Granted some days are better than others, but if you can put up with it, the cost of living is a fraction of what it is here.

Such hassles can be easily abstracted away for, say, $25 a month I suppose (example: a bank of generators far away)

Re: Ask Hacker News: Cost of living in Silicon Valley

#24

This is something that my wife and I thought a lot about before we moved out here, and we still work hard to keep costs very lean and mean. So, I'll write a book for ya. I've lived in Minneapolis, Chicago, LA, Providence, Fresno and now the Bay Area. And, it's the most expensive city we've lived in. There is usually a gentleman's competition ongoing as to what area is more expensive to live in: Bay Area or New York C…

Thanks for the long write-up, I'm thinking of moving out west as well (from South Carolina of all places), and San Jose is on my radar. I'm a 25yo single male used to living very cheaply, so those numbers are helpful. I'd be living out there doing contract work for people in NC, which is probably backwards from the optimal setup...

Once you get out here, you can network pretty easily.

I've been hanging out on the rails business group: http://groups.google.com/group/rails-business?hl=en&lnk=... and I've gotten an email or two a month looking for contract developers in the area. Or you can go to some of the Rails meetups or Bay Piggies (Python users group) in the area and at least you should be able to meet some people and possibly pick up some contract work out here. You just have to make an effort to get out and meet people. Jobs don't seem to be a big problem right now.

Re: Ask Hacker News: Cost of living in Silicon Valley

#25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the long write-up, I'm thinking of moving out west as well (from South Carolina of all places), and San Jose is on my radar. I'm a 25yo single male used to living very cheaply, so those numbers are helpful. I'd be living out there doing contract work for people in NC, which is probably backwards from the optimal setup...

Once you get out here, you can network pretty easily. I've been hanging out on the rails business group: http://groups.google.com/group/rails-business?hl=en&lnk=... and I've gotten an email or two a month looking for contract developers in the area. Or you can go to some of the Rails meetups or Bay Piggies (Python users group) in the area and at least you should be able to meet some people and possibly pick up some c…

Any of you guys in SV get a sense that that area is headed south along with the rest of the economy... or not? I recall moving back to the bay area in 2002, and it was pretty bad. I found work, but it was kind of difficult to connect to potential employers as there were a lot of .com people still milling about, looking for something to do.

Re: Ask Hacker News: Cost of living in Silicon Valley

#26
san francisco

- rent $1000 (unheard of lofty studio thing. )

- phone: $50

- internet connection: $50

- muni pass: $45

- food, entertainment, occasional car share: $300

personally about 1500 a month. no car. I'm cheap... you can obviously spend huge amounts of money on going to expensive restaurants, electronics, concerts, booze, cocaine, etc.

you will either be sharing for $700-$1100 a month or renting a studio/1BR for $1200-$2000/m. rent is the largest expense. a car will cost at least $500/m even if the car is paid for and you hardly drive (parking: $150, insurance $50, gas $3/gallon, parking violations: $200)

Re: Ask Hacker News: Cost of living in Silicon Valley

#27
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once you get out here, you can network pretty easily. I've been hanging out on the rails business group: http://groups.google.com/group/rails-business?hl=en&lnk=... and I've gotten an email or two a month looking for contract developers in the area. Or you can go to some of the Rails meetups or Bay Piggies (Python users group) in the area and at least you should be able to meet some people and possibly pick up some c…

Any of you guys in SV get a sense that that area is headed south along with the rest of the economy... or not? I recall moving back to the bay area in 2002, and it was pretty bad. I found work, but it was kind of difficult to connect to potential employers as there were a lot of .com people still milling about, looking for something to do.

I know that Yahoo just fired 1000 people in the past few weeks, but I hear that many of them got a 3 months severance. That should be enough time for them to start a business or find another gig.

Friend was a laser engineer, just got laid off after 25 years, but had 5 offers on the table in two weeks.

GOOG's stock price has taken a tumble, but they still seem to be hiring: http://www.google.com/support/jobs/bin/topic.py?loc_id=1116&...

Even the "big names" out here that are VC funded web startups, that would be at risk of taking a one way to the dead pool in the event of a "bubble pop", don't really have that many employees. Digg has 50 employees, Facebook had 300 at my last count but is still hiring like crazy: http://www.facebook.com/jobs/

It seems like there are a lot of companies that are coming and going, but there aren't the huge layoffs that hit the place so hard 6-7 years ago, because web startups have kept it pretty lean and mean. For the most part, the engineers still seem to be running the valley, not the biz dev guys.

Startups have been built without a lot of money, and are used to running on a shoe string. If the economy tightens up, I don't think that it will the startup guys that hard.

Some of the big hardware companies might shed some people if capital expenditures take a nose dive across the country, so that means that Intel, HP and Sun might shed some employees. But that's about it.

Re: Ask Hacker News: Cost of living in Silicon Valley

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post #16

So we have been doing some exploring after another investor in the midwest told us to just move to the valley for the networking alone. he may be right. after a few visits, i can say that living in SF, and playing in SF is just fine without a car. SF will be expensive like living in the loop in Chicago, or in some parts of Manhattan, heck thats what you pay for being in the center of it. If you are coming from the su…

The problem with dating in the bay area is there is a 10:1 male to female ratio. The women are smiling at you because your fly is open.

Re: Ask Hacker News: Cost of living in Silicon Valley

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Please poke holes in this idea: 1. Save up some dollars 2. Move to a city in India that has good infrastructure (Coimbatore is the city I have in mind) =$1200 3. Release and iterate till you get good traction =$200/month/person 4. Move to Silicon Valley do the mating dance etc =$1200 Personal burn rate while at India would be as low as $200 per month without compromising on any comfort. After success, I plan to buy a…

Do you speak Hindi? This is a great idea, I want in. YCoimbatore. I know some developers in the city.

Re: Ask Hacker News: Cost of living in Silicon Valley

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Please poke holes in this idea: 1. Save up some dollars 2. Move to a city in India that has good infrastructure (Coimbatore is the city I have in mind) =$1200 3. Release and iterate till you get good traction =$200/month/person 4. Move to Silicon Valley do the mating dance etc =$1200 Personal burn rate while at India would be as low as $200 per month without compromising on any comfort. After success, I plan to buy a…

Brilliant. I love this idea. Its my new backup plan.
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