Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app • Hacker News Board

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by cunotaco » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 4:48 PM UTC

mburst wrote: post #18

cunotaco wrote: post #6

Instagram (Facebook) ate it. Would be nice, by the way, if they could release the source code. Having such an example of a Flask app would be very useful for the community.

I believe Instagram uses Django https://engineering.instagram.com/web-service-efficiency-at-... In any case it's still a pretty popular site/app on it's own. I don't see Facebook killing it anytime soon.

No, I'm talking about Vine. They use Flask, and if they are not going to use the codebase any longer...

Personally I like having a big codebase as an architectural reference when I'm trying to learn a new framework. The Patreon source code (Flask too) is public, by the way.

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by lucideer » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 4:49 PM UTC

Shank wrote: post #13

MOARDONGZPLZ wrote: post #5

Doesn't Twitter do the same thing as Vine now that Twitter does videos? I never got into Vine, but kind of assumed this would happen when Twitter bought Vine. Selling Vine outright would perhaps cause people to move to the new Vine instead of Twitter video, so this (to me) would seem like the best bet to keep Vine's users and migrate them to Twitter.

Vine's primary differentiating factor was 6 second looping videos. While the Twitter platform certainly supports video, it doesn't have the kind of automatic, looping, addictive format that Vine was good for.

I think the issue might be that Boomerang has taken on Vine's role here, and is more suited on the back of close Instagram/Facebook integration, whereas Vine is quite separate from Twitter.

Focusing on getting something like this into Twitter itself might be a better bet (though I suspect Facebook has it wrapped up for now).

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by cm3 » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 4:49 PM UTC

caractacus wrote: post #12

comScore reports just under 5m uniques for Vine.co last month. It may be down on the height of its popularity but 5m unique users is a decent mass of people to monetise. Seems an odd thing to kill and not at least try to sell.

How relevant is that metric given that users will predominantly use the mobile app?

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by r3bl » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 4:50 PM UTC

mburst wrote: post #18

cunotaco wrote: post #6

Instagram (Facebook) ate it. Would be nice, by the way, if they could release the source code. Having such an example of a Flask app would be very useful for the community.

I believe Instagram uses Django https://engineering.instagram.com/web-service-efficiency-at-... In any case it's still a pretty popular site/app on it's own. I don't see Facebook killing it anytime soon.

I believe he was referring to Vine in the second part of his comment, not Instagram.

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by zzzzzzzzzman » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 4:51 PM UTC

yabatopia wrote: post #14

zzzzzzzzzman wrote: post #3

Wow, I really like Vine and am surprised that Twitter's visions for its path to profitability don't include such a flourishing community. Sad news keeps coming today... :(

I can't help it, but I find it amusing to see Twitter and vision in the same sentence. I think the lack of vision is Twitter's biggest problem right now, and not having a dedicated CEO doesn't help.

I agree, but surely as a public company there needs to be some kind of vision somewhere :)

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by jackfrodo » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 4:53 PM UTC

This is really annoying. I don't and haven't ever used vine, but how much could it really cost to keep hosting it, and let people continue using it? Why can't companies be okay having products that are revenue neutral that make people happy?

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by hart_russell » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 4:55 PM UTC

jackfrodo wrote: post #26

This is really annoying. I don't and haven't ever used vine, but how much could it really cost to keep hosting it, and let people continue using it? Why can't companies be okay having products that are revenue neutral that make people happy?

Who says it was revenue neutral?

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by thegoodhands » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 4:55 PM UTC

jackfrodo wrote: post #26

This is really annoying. I don't and haven't ever used vine, but how much could it really cost to keep hosting it, and let people continue using it? Why can't companies be okay having products that are revenue neutral that make people happy?

Hosting, computing and bandwidth cost won't be a small thing

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by vit05 » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 4:55 PM UTC

MOARDONGZPLZ wrote: post #5

Doesn't Twitter do the same thing as Vine now that Twitter does videos? I never got into Vine, but kind of assumed this would happen when Twitter bought Vine. Selling Vine outright would perhaps cause people to move to the new Vine instead of Twitter video, so this (to me) would seem like the best bet to keep Vine's users and migrate them to Twitter.

Periscope is live video, it is different.

I think before kill vine, they could have used to test new discovery/search options that could end up in periscope and twitter. 5 millions people using daily is a great base to do that.

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by JumpCrisscross » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 4:55 PM UTC

jackfrodo wrote: post #26

This is really annoying. I don't and haven't ever used vine, but how much could it really cost to keep hosting it, and let people continue using it? Why can't companies be okay having products that are revenue neutral that make people happy?

Those are lots of assumptions about a company burning half a billion dollars a year.