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The Linux Foundation Unites the JavaScript Community for Open Web Development

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Re: The Linux Foundation Unites the JavaScript Community for Open Web Development

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omegote wrote: post #9
kowdermeister wrote: post #6

I don't see the need for this to cherry pick a few project and push them with the Linux brand. The JS landscape is fragmented for a good reason and I don't see that as problem in fact, rather as a feature. With NPM and YARN we already have a good enough package management system and their platform can help me evaluate if a package is community supported enough. I'm talking about the stats that I can just check: numbe…

How can you find the js fragmentation a feature and not a stinking pile of shit? Seriously.

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Re: The Linux Foundation Unites the JavaScript Community for Open Web Development

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Post by staticvar »

gerbal wrote: post #4

From my perspective the main benefit of this is there is now a non profit that can take over administration of JS projects the community values but the original developers want to abandon.

Perhaps the original developers don't want to abandon these projects, the companies they work for are just not prioritizing funding their development. By placing the Open Source project under non-profit foundation ownership, that foundation can fundraise for their projects as a whole and then hire (at least for some hours) the original developers under that funding. I'm putting words in the JS Foundation's mouth though. It's not what they are saying in that press release.

Re: The Linux Foundation Unites the JavaScript Community for Open Web Development

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Post by k__ »

adrianratnapala wrote: post #12
gerbal wrote: post #4

From my perspective the main benefit of this is there is now a non profit that can take over administration of JS projects the community values but the original developers want to abandon.

Has such an argangment ever worked in practice? I have read here on HN about how the Apache brand is used as a dumping ground for zombie projects. Why would it be different for the Linux Foundation?

Isnt CouchDB an Apache project?

Seems to me like it get's updated

Re: The Linux Foundation Unites the JavaScript Community for Open Web Development

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Post by pluma »

CoryG89 wrote: post #10

Does anyone know if this will affect the licensing of these projects? Linux uses GPL, but I believe most of these projects use MIT.

Probably not much. The Node Foundation is also a Linux Foundation project and they continue using permissive licenses.

Also the JS Foundation already announced that they're adopting the Apache 2.0 license as the default license but that existing projects will keep their MIT/etc licenses. Their open source licensing policy is hidden in the "IP Policy" PDF linked in the footer: https://js.foundation/pdf/ip-policy.pdf

Quote:

> The technical governing body of each Project is free to choose, [..] the Apache License, Version 2.0 [..]. If an alternative inbound or outbound license is required [..], the Board of Directors of the JS Foundation (the “Board”) may approve the use of an alternative license for inbound or outbound contributions on an exception basis.

Re: The Linux Foundation Unites the JavaScript Community for Open Web Development

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Post by k__ »

ghaff wrote: post #16
CoryG89 wrote: post #10

Does anyone know if this will affect the licensing of these projects? Linux uses GPL, but I believe most of these projects use MIT.

The Linux Foundation already has a wide variety of projects besides Linux which are covered by a number of different licenses depending upon the project. https://www.linuxfoundation.org/projects

Also, they say "open web" not "free web" so we're probably save.

Re: The Linux Foundation Unites the JavaScript Community for Open Web Development

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Post by pluma »

thrillgore wrote: post #24

As confusing as this appears (are they going to handle new ECMAScript specifications? I am so confused), I am glad that they're supporting Moment.js. It has become one of my default libs, like jQuery, when working on a new project.

The JS Foundation is just the rebranded jQuery Foundation. Despite its name the jQuery Foundation already had a much broader scope than just jQuery (e.g. also Dojo).

The JS Foundation is not related to TC39, the organization in charge of new ECMAScript editions. I guess they might sponsor a TC39 member eventually and engage in JS advocacy beyond merely supporting JS open source projects -- similar to what the PSF and its affiliates do for Python.

Re: The Linux Foundation Unites the JavaScript Community for Open Web Development

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Post by inimino »

kowdermeister wrote: post #6

I don't see the need for this to cherry pick a few project and push them with the Linux brand. The JS landscape is fragmented for a good reason and I don't see that as problem in fact, rather as a feature. With NPM and YARN we already have a good enough package management system and their platform can help me evaluate if a package is community supported enough. I'm talking about the stats that I can just check: numbe…

This doesn't look like an attempt to pick winners, but to support the participating projects. Do you see anything about reducing fragmentation? (Not that that would be bad.)

Re: The Linux Foundation Unites the JavaScript Community for Open Web Development

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Post by pluma »

stpapa wrote: post #2

Interested to hear - what kind of effect will this have on the fragmentation we see in the JavaScript ecosystem?

Most likely? None at all. But it might ensure the long-term survival of some popular libraries that could otherwise eventually die off (kinda like Apache).

Case in point: https://medium.com/webpack/sustaining-webpack-for-the-future...

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