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The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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I am surprised cell phones are still selling for 650 bucks. You can get a Chinese cell phone for 200 dollars which will do 90% of what latest apple or Samsung will do. Maybe it will be a little bit slower, but not 450 dollars slower.

There are cars for $65000 and for $20000 and they have their audiences. I wouldn't pay $45000 for slightly more powerful engine and slightly better interior, but many people do. Different people have different priorities.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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post #7

A bit offtopic but I am very disappointed only Apple seems to have a clear plan, and makes continuous progress in careful iterations. I quit Apple precisely when the iPhone 1 was released due to ideological reasons, as I realised the whole ecosystem would become a walled garden. But I concede they have good products. I was looking forward to the new Pixel and Pixel XL. Google devices are the only ones that have a san…

I wish there would be more distinction between hardware and software. Just buy an iPhone and install Winedows 10 or buy a S7 and install Sailfish.

Why is this so hard to do? Can't a desktop OS compile the right rom and install it via USB?

Edit: I understand this is a driver issue, but it seems there isn't that much difference in hardware in the mobile world.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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post #2

Let's be honest, it's a 6SS (Plus). And thank god, since I only got my 6S Plus a few months ago. :) I hope they are planning some fireworks (you'll recover Samsung ;) for the iPhone's 10th year anniversary next year.

The only thing that's the same is design. Yet some think that's the most important part…

> Yet some think that's the most important part…

Steve Jobs definitely didn't play down that part, to the point of being as important as any other part.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

#24

Is anyone making different decisions based on the headphone jack? After a steady upgrade cadence since iPhone 1, this is the first time I've postponed my decision, still deciding how to proceed. Google is making the right moves but I'm not sure how much it can help them. Pixel is an excellent product, but you need a crowbar to pry people out of a well worn and comfortable habits.

Headphone jack doesn't matter to me at all. Headphones work perfectly with the adapter that comes with the 7. The lightning ear pods also work perfectly fine. It's really a non-issue.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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post #12

I've always wondered what it is that Anand Lal Shimpi, Brian Klug (also formerly Anandtech) and (now) Chris Ziegler (formerly The Verge) do at Apple (or did if they've moved on). At first I thought they might be involved in PR and media outreach but that doesn't seem to be the case. Now I'd guess maybe they just painstakingly review devices just like they did before except now they do internal only reviews of Apple's…

> Chris Ziegler (formerly The Verge)

I do wonder if he is _still_ at Apple after whatever was happening was made public (and possibly known to Apple as well)

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Is anyone making different decisions based on the headphone jack? After a steady upgrade cadence since iPhone 1, this is the first time I've postponed my decision, still deciding how to proceed. Google is making the right moves but I'm not sure how much it can help them. Pixel is an excellent product, but you need a crowbar to pry people out of a well worn and comfortable habits.

Won't affect my decisions come renewal time, I have no beef against the jack but I've come to despise wired headphones so much that the loss of the jack is inconsequential to me.

And even driving my old beater won't cause me any hassles because the FM radio transmitter I bought for the car uses USB for both power and audio. Lots of inexpensive car stereos offer USB and Bluetooth in.

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post #9
post #7

A bit offtopic but I am very disappointed only Apple seems to have a clear plan, and makes continuous progress in careful iterations. I quit Apple precisely when the iPhone 1 was released due to ideological reasons, as I realised the whole ecosystem would become a walled garden. But I concede they have good products. I was looking forward to the new Pixel and Pixel XL. Google devices are the only ones that have a san…

> Google devices are the only ones that have a sane code/update policy within Android They have 2 years update policy, the same as any other Android device. They sign it by contract.

They have 2 years update policy, the same as any other Android device.

What do you mean? There are many Android devices that never receive an update at all.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

#28
post #17

I am surprised cell phones are still selling for 650 bucks. You can get a Chinese cell phone for 200 dollars which will do 90% of what latest apple or Samsung will do. Maybe it will be a little bit slower, but not 450 dollars slower.

When the $200 phone bursts into flames, are you able to sue the Chinese manufacturer for damages? When your $200 phone breaks, do you have to simply buy a new one rather than get it replaced? When there are security holes in your $200 phone, will the cheap skin over Android get patched? I buy Apple phones for one reason, and that's the fact that my business lives and dies through communication. With my $800 phone, I…

To be fair, the $800 phone is currently bursting into flames everywhere and people are having lots of trouble getting help from Samsung.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

#29

Is anyone making different decisions based on the headphone jack? After a steady upgrade cadence since iPhone 1, this is the first time I've postponed my decision, still deciding how to proceed. Google is making the right moves but I'm not sure how much it can help them. Pixel is an excellent product, but you need a crowbar to pry people out of a well worn and comfortable habits.

I am - I'm hanging on to my 6 asap

Did you mean ALAP (as long as possible)?

My 4s became really sluggish after upgrade to (I think) iOS 7. I wonder at which point I should stop upgrading iPhone 7 to extend its life a bit.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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post #22
post #7

A bit offtopic but I am very disappointed only Apple seems to have a clear plan, and makes continuous progress in careful iterations. I quit Apple precisely when the iPhone 1 was released due to ideological reasons, as I realised the whole ecosystem would become a walled garden. But I concede they have good products. I was looking forward to the new Pixel and Pixel XL. Google devices are the only ones that have a san…

I wish there would be more distinction between hardware and software. Just buy an iPhone and install Winedows 10 or buy a S7 and install Sailfish. Why is this so hard to do? Can't a desktop OS compile the right rom and install it via USB? Edit: I understand this is a driver issue, but it seems there isn't that much difference in hardware in the mobile world.

>I wish there would be more distinction between hardware and software. Just buy an iPhone and install Winedows 10 or buy a S7 and install Sailfish.

That would be the antithesis of what makes the iPhone good though -- the hardware/software limited fragmentation + lock-step iterations.

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