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Spanish Boy Racks Up €100K Bill, Google Cancels The Charge

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Re: Spanish Boy Racks Up €100K Bill, Google Cancels The Charge

#21
Something definitely smells out of place here.

I believe the AdWords policies vary from country to country (and from time to time) but the last I checked (2015), here in India, you had to have at least one verifiable payment method (card/bank account) in order to even activate an AdWords account, leave alone the matter of running up a balance of Euro 100,000.

So how did a 12 y-o manage to do that?

Re: Spanish Boy Racks Up €100K Bill, Google Cancels The Charge

#22
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They'd presumably be advertising your services though (not the kids website). Easier to establish fraud.

Not your services, affiliate marketing. Much harder to determine who got the payout.

The fact that there was payout at all indicates something suspicious. This was just crappy promotions for youtube videos owned by the same person.

Re: Spanish Boy Racks Up €100K Bill, Google Cancels The Charge

#23

Of course it's the right decision, but doesn't it make a mockery of some fundamental philosophy of the market mechanisms behind Google AdWords that it can be cancelled?

Nothing that can't be fixed with a small army of clickbots.

Re: Spanish Boy Racks Up €100K Bill, Google Cancels The Charge

#24
post #2

So, you can get away with blowing >$100k on adwords and nobody bats an eye (he was auto-billed), but on AWS I can't spin up more than a few elastic IPs or EBS volumes without going through verification hoops :)

Agreed, if anything, this story is interesting because it shows that Google will let brand new customers go from 0 to 100 k$ without any checking!

I really thought I had to add a credit card before I could use adwords,and that they charge at the end of the first month.

I feel like there's something missing from this story.

Re: Spanish Boy Racks Up €100K Bill, Google Cancels The Charge

#25

Something definitely smells out of place here. I believe the AdWords policies vary from country to country (and from time to time) but the last I checked (2015), here in India, you had to have at least one verifiable payment method (card/bank account) in order to even activate an AdWords account, leave alone the matter of running up a balance of Euro 100,000. So how did a 12 y-o manage to do that?

The story as reported on bbc radio 4 last night said his parents let him add some bank details - either their own or some other account like a trust fund that needed their consent.

I wasn't really listening enough to remember the exact details but it rang true enough for me not to question it. Other than his parents being very trusting or very naive, of course?

/More detail http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37571304/boy-racks-up-...

"A savings account had been opened in the boy's name and he used those details when signing up for AdWords."

Re: Spanish Boy Racks Up €100K Bill, Google Cancels The Charge

#26
post #5

In Austria, you are not contractually capable until you are 14, and from 14-18 you are so only in a limited fashion, as allowed by the assets available to you. Probably Spain has similar laws (age of majority is 18 in Spain), making the whole AdWords contract invalid. So there would not have been any way for Google to get the money. So this most likely wasn't anything 'charitable' done by Google, just the law. Nothin…

You just gave me a good idea to save a lot of money in ads: Mechanical Turk for kids... just kidding!

Re: Spanish Boy Racks Up €100K Bill, Google Cancels The Charge

#27

Of course it's the right decision, but doesn't it make a mockery of some fundamental philosophy of the market mechanisms behind Google AdWords that it can be cancelled?

What do you mean? No sellers got stiffed by this cancellation, if this happens it's Google that foots the bill (minus its own share).

Re: Spanish Boy Racks Up €100K Bill, Google Cancels The Charge

#28
post #2

So, you can get away with blowing >$100k on adwords and nobody bats an eye (he was auto-billed), but on AWS I can't spin up more than a few elastic IPs or EBS volumes without going through verification hoops :)

Amazon are supposedly good about refunding accidents too.

Re: Spanish Boy Racks Up €100K Bill, Google Cancels The Charge

#29
post #4

1. Get kids to open AdWords accounts for you 2. Spend 100k on each on affiliate marketing. Even a non optimized campaign on a good offer is still going to bring in 5 figures 3. ?????? 4. Profit

3. Use the press to make Google look evil.

Fixed that for you ;)

Re: Spanish Boy Racks Up €100K Bill, Google Cancels The Charge

#30
post #8

So, someone in Google's accounting department handled a mistake in a mature and responsible way. Good on them.

They should have charged the idiot parents who gave him access to their bank account. But they did not only in order to save face and not be portrayed as an evil corporation by the media.

There are no mistakes here. The idiot kid wanted publicity at any cost, the idiot parents want to give the kid everything he wants and Google doesn't want any more hostile propaganda in Europe.

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