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Why Some Wars Get More Attention Than Others

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Re: Why Some Wars Get More Attention Than Others

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Post by pabloski »

lisivka wrote: post #10
ilaksh wrote: post #2

They are obviously not isolated wars, and the reasons they give are transparently fake. Look at a map. https://www.google.com/maps/vt/data=RfCSdfNZ0LFPrHSm0ublXdzh... Yemen is a choke point. Syria is in an extremely strategically important position both in terms of territory and it is an ally to Iran. Iraq and Afghanistan are on each side of Iran. Egypt was blocking the Libya invasion. That was a cyber-intelligence c…

ISIS is created by Russia to raise prices of oil and natural gas.

Then why the US is helping them killing syrian soldiers and bombing bridges?

http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/10/syria-bombing-us-backs-isis...

Re: Why Some Wars Get More Attention Than Others

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Post by nabla9 »

acqq wrote: post #14
nabla9 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a civil war just like Syria is civil war. The larger regional conflict is attached to the regional conflict. The issues Houthis or Syrian Sunni majority had before the war did not come from outside.

"a civil war just like Syria is civil war" Because, as you say, "the issues" "did not come from outside?" Syria, CNN Dec. 2006: http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1571751,00... "The Bush Administration has been quietly nurturing individuals and parties opposed to the Syrian government in an effort to undermine the regime of President Bashar Assad." The cable of the US ambassador in Syria, December 2006…

Outside forces have been messing with them, but the issues that created the civil war were not created by outside forces.

Assad's family and Alawite minority were ruling Syria and Sunni majority was oppressed. It was just question of time when something happens.

Re: Why Some Wars Get More Attention Than Others

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Post by yummyfajitas »

pabloski wrote: post #20
berntb wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saudi Arabia might export an extremist and hateful variant of their religion, but they don't advocate terror (you don't rock the boat when you're on top of the world). Iran is probably the world's largest terror exporter (Pakistan might be worse?) and militarily expansionist. I think they even (internally) argue for their goal of controlling the muslim holy places, etc. So Iran actively destabilizes Middle East count…

Are you sure? Saudi Arabia is the creator of ISIS and its main sponsor. Also Saudi Arabia is the homeland of Bin Laden and the one country a lot of sources say is implicated in the 9/11 terror attack.

"Creator" and "sponsor" are very odd words to use to describe that relationship. By this logic the UK is the "creator" and "sponsor" of the IRA.

In a sense it's true; the folks who wanted to violently revolt against the UK government were, in fact, UK citizens. Similarly, the folks who want to topple the house of Saud and impose their own government on Saudi Arabia are mostly Saudi citizens.

But I think it's a stretch to call that relationship "creator" and "sponsor". The UK government, as an organization, is staunchly opposed to the IRA. And similarly for the Saudi government.

Re: Why Some Wars Get More Attention Than Others

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Post by acqq »

yummyfajitas wrote: post #24
pabloski wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure? Saudi Arabia is the creator of ISIS and its main sponsor. Also Saudi Arabia is the homeland of Bin Laden and the one country a lot of sources say is implicated in the 9/11 terror attack.

"Creator" and "sponsor" are very odd words to use to describe that relationship. By this logic the UK is the "creator" and "sponsor" of the IRA. In a sense it's true; the folks who wanted to violently revolt against the UK government were, in fact, UK citizens. Similarly, the folks who want to topple the house of Saud and impose their own government on Saudi Arabia are mostly Saudi citizens. But I think it's a stretc…

IRA is irrelevant for this discussion, let's stay on the topic:

At the moment ISIS does promote regime change in Saudi Arabia, so the regime there really don't like them related to that, but the former history is very different.

They also don't complain to ISIS' application of Sharia (punishments, like decapitations and outlawing homosexuals and atheists) as they are anyway prescribed by the same Sharia understanding, in big part common to Saudis and ISIS. They also don't condemn fighting against Shias, as both consider them "unbelievers" who are to be fought and killed.

Assad is also Alawite, also the enemy of both ISIS and Saudis.

Edit: I see you again try to "prove by" (for me false) "analogy with IRA" in your following reply. Please just stay on topic to ISIS. You can't prove anything, at least to me, by avoiding to discuss the relevant facts of the relevant topic.

Re: Why Some Wars Get More Attention Than Others

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Post by Shivetya »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #7

Because of you, NY Times, because of you and your friends. You're literally the creators of attention to stuff, so please explain to us, why you chose to cover one war, and ignore another?

one of two things comes to mind, a certain political candidate will turn their focus towards this issue or that NYT is just getting out ahead of something the US will soon be involved in. I guess the sale of papers is slow and the march of imperialism by the US needs to be pushed again.

Honestly I do not get the NYT. They will push for wars and then turn around and claim to be bamboozled or such. Perhaps there are too many journalist there who think they can just make it happen if they write about it enough

Re: Why Some Wars Get More Attention Than Others

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Post by jessaustin »

whack wrote: post #9

"Search SUBSCRIBELOG INWorld Why Some Wars (Like Syria’s) Get More Attention Than Others (Like Yemen’s) Damage in a house after a Saudi-led airstrike last month in Yemen, whose war has not gotten much attention. MOHAMED AL-SAYAGHI / REUTERS OCTOBER 1, 2016 The Interpreter By AMANDA TAUB It is a truth universally acknowledged by every war correspondent, humanitarian aid worker and Western diplomat: Some wars, like Syr…

But when the world asks why America has forgotten Yemen and other conflicts like it, that has the situation backward. The truth is that inattention is the default, not the exception.

It's backward, but for a completely different reason. When has USA "attention" ever helped a war situation? "The world" should be careful what they wish for.

Re: Why Some Wars Get More Attention Than Others

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Post by sremani »

Saudi Arabia, Qatar et al. are able to hire high roller lobbyists and spread "wealth" to power brokers in DC. That much attention is given Syria with lot of propaganda on Twitter by PR agencies hired by Saudi et al. These same groups are also spreading "wealth" to suppress news about Yemen.

Re: Why Some Wars Get More Attention Than Others

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Post by acqq »

nabla9 wrote: post #22
acqq wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"a civil war just like Syria is civil war" Because, as you say, "the issues" "did not come from outside?" Syria, CNN Dec. 2006: http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1571751,00... "The Bush Administration has been quietly nurturing individuals and parties opposed to the Syrian government in an effort to undermine the regime of President Bashar Assad." The cable of the US ambassador in Syria, December 2006…

Outside forces have been messing with them, but the issues that created the civil war were not created by outside forces. Assad's family and Alawite minority were ruling Syria and Sunni majority was oppressed. It was just question of time when something happens.

Without the weapons and the logistic support provided from the outside, it wouldn't even be a war at all.

It is a proxy war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_proxy_wars

with at least 7 million refugees now.

Re: Why Some Wars Get More Attention Than Others

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Post by lisivka »

pabloski wrote: post #21
lisivka wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ISIS is created by Russia to raise prices of oil and natural gas.

Then why the US is helping them killing syrian soldiers and bombing bridges? http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/10/syria-bombing-us-backs-isis...

Why you think that stopping Russians will help ISIL?

My conversations with Russian agents in Ukraine shows that they are using ISIL and anti-Christian propaganda to control Muslims. I cannot tell in details, of course, because of war with Russia.

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