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Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by chickenfries » Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 5:27 PM UTC

carsongross wrote: post #15

chickenfries wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, that is just my knowledge from using YouTube and my experience with ad trafficking. YouTube's ad revenue comes from the videos you see when you watch YouTube videos, not from the ads around the website or in the UI of the mobile app. Do the current mobile apps even have ads in the UI? I don't think they do. The point I'm trying to make is that YouTube Go offers a significantly different UX that seems to be about…

> Did you even read about any of the features here? > No, that is just my knowledge from using YouTube and my experience with ad trafficking. Never change, HackerNews comments.

> Did you even read about any of the features here?

This was referring to the fact that the main features that the article discussed were about previewing videos and peer to peer video sharing, which are tangible UX improvements that have nothing to do with showing the user more ads.

Can I clear anything else up for you?

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by wwarren » Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 5:27 PM UTC

Spivak wrote: post #17

dubcanada wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but Google is exceptionally good at fragmentation and confusion in regards to products. How many gmail apps do they have? Inbox, gmail, android mail (though this got deprecated), web interface, etc. Youtube now has 2 apps, a web interface. They seem to like to make new stuff, rather then upgrade their existing stuff. Then every second year they just go through their stack and deprecate 30% of it.

You're forgetting that they also have YouTube Gaming [1] as another separate app. [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and...

Don't forget YouTube Kids as well! https://appsto.re/ca/U1q23.i

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by dragonwriter » Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 5:28 PM UTC

gtirloni wrote: post #7

I don't understand why a new app if this could just be an additional feature in the current app. Doesn't this lead to fragmentation and confusion?

> I don't understand why a new app if this could just be an additional feature in the current app.

Its a ground-up rewrite of the app with a very different experience focus and for a different audience. It wouldn't make much sense as a feature of the existing app.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by 8ytecoder » Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 5:30 PM UTC

wwarren wrote: post #22

Spivak wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're forgetting that they also have YouTube Gaming [1] as another separate app. [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and...

Don't forget YouTube Kids as well! https://appsto.re/ca/U1q23.i

And YT Music too!

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by timdeneau » Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 5:32 PM UTC

gtirloni wrote: post #7

I don't understand why a new app if this could just be an additional feature in the current app. Doesn't this lead to fragmentation and confusion?

It’s a step in the right direction supporting offline first, encouraging to see this.

But I’m also a little disappointed it’s a separate app, and country specific from what I can determine. It would be great to see this rolled into the current app without restriction.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by dragonwriter » Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 5:32 PM UTC

dubcanada wrote: post #13

gtirloni wrote: post #7

I don't understand why a new app if this could just be an additional feature in the current app. Doesn't this lead to fragmentation and confusion?

Yes, but Google is exceptionally good at fragmentation and confusion in regards to products. How many gmail apps do they have? Inbox, gmail, android mail (though this got deprecated), web interface, etc. Youtube now has 2 apps, a web interface. They seem to like to make new stuff, rather then upgrade their existing stuff. Then every second year they just go through their stack and deprecate 30% of it.

> Youtube now has 2 apps

At least 6 apps.

Youtube, Youtube Creator Studio, Youtube Kids, Youtube Music, Youtube Gaming, Youtube Go

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by lucb1e » Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 5:32 PM UTC

philfrasty wrote: post #16

„YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers“ = Snapchat

Could you elaborate on that? I don't have Snapchat. From what I know it's just a chat app to send self-destructing messages and pictures.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by lucb1e » Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 5:34 PM UTC

arjie wrote: post #12

Animats wrote: post #3

From a user perspective, the purpose of YouTube is to play out videos. Time spent in YouTube's user interface is a means for getting to the videos. But from Google's perspective, the revenue comes from time in the user interface, where the ads are. "Reimagined" probably means "more ad slots".

Stop projecting how you treat your users with how other people do. Being able to download at different quality, being able to preview, and being able to share over Bluetooth are just straight up usability improvements for people in the targeted region (and probably elsewhere too).

> Stop projecting how you treat your users with how other people do.

What makes you think he'd display ads if he had an app like that after he made clear what he thinks of that concept?

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by lucb1e » Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 5:35 PM UTC

chickenfries wrote: post #14

Animats wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The parent article never mentions ads. Is there a version of this article for advertisers?

No, that is just my knowledge from using YouTube and my experience with ad trafficking. YouTube's ad revenue comes from the videos you see when you watch YouTube videos, not from the ads around the website or in the UI of the mobile app. Do the current mobile apps even have ads in the UI? I don't think they do. The point I'm trying to make is that YouTube Go offers a significantly different UX that seems to be about…

> Do the current mobile apps even have ads in the UI?

I don't know if they're paid for, but the "you should watch this" and "follow that" and "omg this is so hip in your region right now" are driving me crazy.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by mxwll » Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 5:36 PM UTC

philfrasty wrote: post #16

„YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers“ = Snapchat

What?

This article is about rethinking and developing a new youtube app with "offline first" in mind. It was created after researching how YouTube is consumed in India to offer a more user friendly experience.

Has 0 to do with snapchat