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Show HN: An Open Source Tool to Combat Clickbait Links

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Re: Show HN: An Open Source Tool to Combat Clickbait Links

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post #9

It assumes "a relevant (i.e. non-clickbait) link would have its text appear frequently on the actual page". Is there empirical evidence for this claim? The examples featured in the article seem mixed (some right, some wrong). It's easy enough to test: collect human judgement scores for a few hundred article links from several news sites (an afternoon's work) and compare to the algorithm.

It seems like it'd at least catch some. How else would you measure?

Re: Show HN: An Open Source Tool to Combat Clickbait Links

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I'm not sure that term frequency is the right way to go about the problem of clickbait. Frequently, titles and body text is meant to match up as a form of SEO. I'm not sure if this can be done through an extension, but an alternative way to go about this is by measuring time spent on the page. If the page has X words which takes Y minutes to read, but a certain number of people bounce before that time, the score is l…

Thanks for the suggestion. The code is open sourced on github. Feel free to do a pull request with your approach and I'll take a look at it.

Re: Show HN: An Open Source Tool to Combat Clickbait Links

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post #9

It assumes "a relevant (i.e. non-clickbait) link would have its text appear frequently on the actual page". Is there empirical evidence for this claim? The examples featured in the article seem mixed (some right, some wrong). It's easy enough to test: collect human judgement scores for a few hundred article links from several news sites (an afternoon's work) and compare to the algorithm.

Thanks for the comment. There have been a lot of studies done using the general TF-IDF approach. You can read about it on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tf%E2%80%93idf

There is also a new version planned using a different approach.

Re: Show HN: An Open Source Tool to Combat Clickbait Links

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post #13

Oh this is exactly what I wanted - I hope you make a firefox addon soon. How does your approach of looking for text frequency compared to, say, pattern-matching existing clickbait titles from a database? Can the two approaches be combined (say, by using Splice to generate a corpus, remove false positives manually, then use it to train a pattern matcher?) Not having to load the linked article has huge benefits on band…

Thanks. This was built because someone posted an ASK HN a few weeks ago. They wanted to know if there was a way to stop clickbait. The text frequency approach seemed like the simplest and cleanest approach to build this in a short timeframe.

Firefox addon is in the works. If you want to contribute code, go to github and make a pull request.

Re: Show HN: An Open Source Tool to Combat Clickbait Links

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Why not train a network on ad unit headings from Outbrain and the like. That seems like it'd be pretty spot-on. These in-situ pseudo-related-articles ad units are, by their nature, click-bait. Aren't they?

Thanks for the comment. There is a new version under development that will use a different approach. Most likely a neural network.

Re: Show HN: An Open Source Tool to Combat Clickbait Links

#27

So that means it's fetching the content (or at least the HTML portion) of every eligible link? That seems like potentially a lot of network traffic for what it does. Find if you have a fast connection, I suppose.

Good point. There is some consideration for building an option to limit the number of links analyzed. So if you set it to 5 or 10, then the tool would stop at that limit. Feel free to open an issue on github.

Re: Show HN: An Open Source Tool to Combat Clickbait Links

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post #12

So that means it's fetching the content (or at least the HTML portion) of every eligible link? That seems like potentially a lot of network traffic for what it does. Find if you have a fast connection, I suppose.

Can be even worse. I have seen some ugly corporate services using links with GET request to perform delete operations and having serious data loss caused by crawlers like this tool.

This was definitely a consideration. It was why there is a blacklist feature and why only links of a certain length and certain type are analyzed. Any suggestions can be made on github via a pull request.

Re: Show HN: An Open Source Tool to Combat Clickbait Links

#29
post #9

It assumes "a relevant (i.e. non-clickbait) link would have its text appear frequently on the actual page". Is there empirical evidence for this claim? The examples featured in the article seem mixed (some right, some wrong). It's easy enough to test: collect human judgement scores for a few hundred article links from several news sites (an afternoon's work) and compare to the algorithm.

This is more or less part of the definition of clickbait: an article with a title that misrepresents the content of the article in order to garner more views.
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