Safari 10.0 • Hacker News Board

Re: Safari 10.0

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Post by dumbmatter » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 7:26 PM UTC

I don't own a Mac, but I'm curious if Safari 10 is finally good enough to run one of my hobby projects, and if not I'd like to debug it because it seems the feature support is finally here (specifically, IndexedDB).

Are there any better options than coercing one of my friends with a Mac into upgrading and letting me borrow their laptop? If not, will I have to get them to upgrade the whole OS like it's old school Internet Explorer, or is it standalone?

Re: Safari 10.0

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Post by SG- » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 7:26 PM UTC

sanjeetsuhag wrote: post #7

The biggest hope I had from macOS Sierra was Picture in Picture, but sadly, iTunes is basically the only thing supporting it. Till, then, I'm stuck using Helium. Helium : http://heliumfloats.com

No, anything that does standard controls will support PiP and as indicated in the notes for HTML5 players that have their own controls (like Youtube) then it's possible to do it through JS (if Youtube decides to).

I'm sure some browser plugin can be created to add the controls to Youtube or all the other major HTML5 players.

Re: Safari 10.0

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Post by melling » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 7:29 PM UTC

caiob wrote: post #19

melling wrote: post #11

Safari 10 seems to choke while I'm reading this page: http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~cis194/fall16/lectures/01-intro.h... Usually about the time I get to the section on Animations.

Works fine here.

Probably didn't give it enough time. It kills Safari on my iPad too. I submitted a Radar.

Thread 0:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fffd0a0ec8a __psynch_cvwait + 10

1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fffd0af797a _pthread_cond_wait + 712

2 libc++.1.dylib 0x00007fffcf48558d std::__1::condition_variable::wait(std::__1::unique_lock&) + 47

3 com.apple.JavaScriptCore 0x00007fffbe6ef7de WTF::ParkingLot::parkConditionallyImpl(void const*, WTF::ScopedLambda const&, WTF::ScopedLambda const&, std::__1::chrono::time_point > >) + 2494

Re: Safari 10.0

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Post by mgkimsal » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 7:30 PM UTC

dumbmatter wrote: post #21

I don't own a Mac, but I'm curious if Safari 10 is finally good enough to run one of my hobby projects, and if not I'd like to debug it because it seems the feature support is finally here (specifically, IndexedDB). Are there any better options than coercing one of my friends with a Mac into upgrading and letting me borrow their laptop? If not, will I have to get them to upgrade the whole OS like it's old school Inte…

Pretty sure it's not going to be standalone.

Re: Safari 10.0

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Post by roneythomas6 » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 7:33 PM UTC

The first beta preview of sierra had webp support and safari supported it. They removed it in the later preview release. Hopefully they will support webp in some future release of macOS.

Re: Safari 10.0

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Post by legulere » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 7:34 PM UTC

atonse wrote: post #15

fivesigma wrote: post #6

http://iswebrtcreadyyet.com/ Unacceptable in this day and age.

They're working on it: https://webkit.org/status/#specification-webrtc .

Here's the bug in their bugtracker: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124288

Re: Safari 10.0

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Post by wrboyce » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 7:34 PM UTC

Relatively minor change, but one of my favourites; cmd-z will now undo multiple tab closes.

Re: Safari 10.0

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Post by cmpb » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 7:35 PM UTC

dumbmatter wrote: post #21

I don't own a Mac, but I'm curious if Safari 10 is finally good enough to run one of my hobby projects, and if not I'd like to debug it because it seems the feature support is finally here (specifically, IndexedDB). Are there any better options than coercing one of my friends with a Mac into upgrading and letting me borrow their laptop? If not, will I have to get them to upgrade the whole OS like it's old school Inte…

I just updated Safari to 10.0 without being on macOS, so it's presumably standalone. Some features (i.e. picture in picture) might not work as well, but indexedDB has been in Safari for a while, so I'm sure the updates to it are supported everywhere.

Re: Safari 10.0

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Post by pbarnes_1 » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 7:38 PM UTC

ihsw wrote: post #10

Notably, the ApplePay API is entering general availability (GA)[1]. The following networks are supported[2]: amex, discover, interac, masterCard, privateLabel, or visa. The following products are prohibited[3] as well as many other services: * cigarettes or tobacco products; * firearms, weapons, and ammunition; * illegal drugs, non-legally prescribed controlled substances; * items that create consumer safety risks; *…

Eh... hard to get excited about this until Chrome and FF can somehow support Apple Pay.

Re: Safari 10.0

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Post by Razengan » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 7:38 PM UTC

sanjeetsuhag wrote: post #7

The biggest hope I had from macOS Sierra was Picture in Picture, but sadly, iTunes is basically the only thing supporting it. Till, then, I'm stuck using Helium. Helium : http://heliumfloats.com

PiP is supported for YouTube etc. too.

Control-click/Right-click on a YouTube video – the first time around it'll show its private menu – then CLICK AGAIN on the video, which will bring up Safari's menu for videos including the Picture-in-Picture option: http://i.imgur.com/ekWnBQr.png