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What It Costs to Run Let's Encrypt

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Re: What It Costs to Run Let's Encrypt

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Approximately 100% salary overhead is pretty standard, so eight $125k employees plus infrastructure and office costs sounds reasonable.

8 x $125K would be $1M, not the $2M that is currently being spent on employees. Edit: Missed the first part of that, I apologise. 100% overhead doesn't seem reasonable per employee to me though.

He said 100% overhead on top of salary

Re: What It Costs to Run Let's Encrypt

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post #13
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Approximately 100% salary overhead is pretty standard, so eight $125k employees plus infrastructure and office costs sounds reasonable.

8 x $125K would be $1M, not the $2M that is currently being spent on employees. Edit: Missed the first part of that, I apologise. 100% overhead doesn't seem reasonable per employee to me though.

You missed the "100% salary overhead" part of the sentence. Consider taxes, benefits, insurance, other non-salary costs to employing people.

Re: What It Costs to Run Let's Encrypt

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$2.06M for eight employees seems very steep

They have to compete with the rest of Silicon Valley. That's about what it costs to get a good engineer around here, when you count benefits.

Couldn't this be ran out of Nowhere, Idaho though? Remote workers, etc.

Re: What It Costs to Run Let's Encrypt

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post #13
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Approximately 100% salary overhead is pretty standard, so eight $125k employees plus infrastructure and office costs sounds reasonable.

8 x $125K would be $1M, not the $2M that is currently being spent on employees. Edit: Missed the first part of that, I apologise. 100% overhead doesn't seem reasonable per employee to me though.

You missed the 100% overhead. Even 50% overhead at a slightly higher salary wouldn't be surprising.

Re: What It Costs to Run Let's Encrypt

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$2.06M for eight employees seems very steep

That's for ten employees, not eight. Salary + benefits. Could have been more clear in the post, but we have eight employees now and have budgeted for ten in 2017.

Assuming 100% overhead for benefits, etc., that's 100K per employee, which is quite low for Silicon Valley.

Re: What It Costs to Run Let's Encrypt

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Funny to see people quibble over a few hundred thousand dollars when they're doing a substantial amount of the heavy lifting to encrypt the web. At over 10 million certificates issued in the past year, their staffing costs represent $0.20/cert. For those who've deployed with Let's Encrypt, did you get a quarter's worth of value from their service?

Re: What It Costs to Run Let's Encrypt

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|$250k/employee hmmmm

You're forgetting about their health insurance, retirement, unemployment taxes, etc. I'm sure they get some tax-relief being a non-profit, but still, high end computer scientists are expensive.

Open source projects aren't really volunteer/spare-time/garage efforts anymore. The Mozilla and Apache foundations are pretty big organizations. A lot of projects are also run by for-profit commercial players like Redhat and Canonical.

Re: What It Costs to Run Let's Encrypt

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post #13
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Approximately 100% salary overhead is pretty standard, so eight $125k employees plus infrastructure and office costs sounds reasonable.

8 x $125K would be $1M, not the $2M that is currently being spent on employees. Edit: Missed the first part of that, I apologise. 100% overhead doesn't seem reasonable per employee to me though.

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Re: What It Costs to Run Let's Encrypt

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post #13
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Approximately 100% salary overhead is pretty standard, so eight $125k employees plus infrastructure and office costs sounds reasonable.

8 x $125K would be $1M, not the $2M that is currently being spent on employees. Edit: Missed the first part of that, I apologise. 100% overhead doesn't seem reasonable per employee to me though.

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