Blue oceans for banks
21–30 of 45 posts
Re: Blue oceans for banks
#22There ain’t no hubris like FinTech startup hubris.
Re: Blue oceans for banks
#23Since they mention airlines: Norwegian (the airline) started it's own bank: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_Norwegian
Re: Blue oceans for banks
#24Since they mention airlines: Norwegian (the airline) started it's own bank: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_Norwegian
Yes! and virgin has a bank as well. This is a very lucrative market.
Re: Blue oceans for banks
#25https://www.simple.com/company/the-next-chapter
The OP is a short ambitious document written by two guys who think they can do better. They think they can build a new kind of "bank for tourists." So far, they have a landing page and a mobile app: https://www.wrinq.com/ ...They will need a lot of luck.
Re: Blue oceans for banks
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
It should be on bank statements and on the card. What I was trying to say though was that the fact that Barclays has a system like Revolut is a problem for other banks that don't have a system like that. So our solution is still valuable for them.
The idea of using Barclays, or any 3rd party bank, is just to get enough traction so they have their own participation method later. Also it doesn't show Barclays on the statement from my usage - it shows the end merchants details. I didn't really know it was Barclays till now. Barclays has been known to help startups by lending them their (global) infrastructure in the UK. Another Example is Dopay where Egyptian Bar…
You can think of revolut as a front end for barclays client pool account. This is a very simplistic explanation but what I'm trying to emphasize here is that the money revolut manages is effectively with Barclays.
So the idea of having Barclays is not to get traction or to have their own participation method later but to have the muscle of a bank that can handle large scale international payments.
There are other big banks who don't have something like revolut. So our solution can be a good proposition for them (Not saying that we don't have ideas for any new features. We do, but we've been caught off guard by the new announcement. It'll take a few more days to make it's way to the pitch)
>"Barclays has been known to help startups by lending them their (global) infrastructure in the UK"
Yes, but why? Barclays profits with every customer that revolut brings/ will bring. Other banks would want to profit in a similar way.
I didn't know about BOE but I don't think that switching banking partners after about 5 years of operation is going to be that easy... Not sure could be wrong.
Re: Blue oceans for banks
#27The very smart, very shrewd, hard-working folks at Simple tried building a new kind of bank... and found out that the business of banking is FAR more complicated than it seems. Ultimately, Simple decided it would be best to sell to a giant established bank, BBVA (USD 800 billion in assets): https://www.simple.com/company/the-next-chapter The OP is a short ambitious document written by two guys who think they can do b…
Further we're not building a new bank. We're proposing to use the existing systems available, in any international bank today ,in a new way.
Simple was a challenger. We want to collaborate. Hacker news might just be the rabbit's foot!
Re: Blue oceans for banks
#28The very smart, very shrewd, hard-working folks at Simple tried building a new kind of bank... and found out that the business of banking is FAR more complicated than it seems. Ultimately, Simple decided it would be best to sell to a giant established bank, BBVA (USD 800 billion in assets): https://www.simple.com/company/the-next-chapter The OP is a short ambitious document written by two guys who think they can do b…
Foreign transaction costs are not "prohibitive" expensive and there are CC in the US with no foreign transaction fees. You can use transferwise or WU in the worst case (just wired a buddy who is broke US$ 300 online). Social network and payments? Use Wechat!
There are three major problems that they won't be able to solve.
1. KYC regulations
2. Fraud. The financial industry makes it more difficult and more difficult to access your own money (e.g. require a receive text message to wire money. Good luck with that abroad)
3. "in multiple currencies and fast unrestricted exchange of funds within the internal banking network"
This is not a problem as long as your stay within ONE country. Use Wechat in China, use M-Pesa in Kenya etc. It becomes a problem when you do it internationally because many countries are heavily regulated and afraid that capital leaves the country. Have you made, as an average person, international transactions with China? India? Sri Lanka? Ethiopia? Good luck buddy!
In fact, even getting cash at the ATM abroad becomes more tricky. Recently I got into the habit of just carrying cash for all my travels after I run nearly out of cash twice (Ethiopia and India). What do I carry? Euros! They did not want my dollars in Ethiopia because they were "not the latest series" (remember point 2?)
Re: Blue oceans for banks
#29Since they mention airlines: Norwegian (the airline) started it's own bank: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_Norwegian
Many major companies have their own banks and even insurances. An insurance is an easily available tax shelter.
Re: Blue oceans for banks
#30ever heard of cryptocurrencies? no banks are neeeded, and identity on blockchain will actually happen.
Cryptocurrency is the only way to circumvent the prohibitionist laws against free exchange of money. The biggest source of inefficiency in the global economy is the organized censorship of human economic activity via state intervention, and cryptocurrency directly addresses that.