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Medical guidelines don’t include a diet low in carbohydrates

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Re: Medical guidelines don’t include a diet low in carbohydrates

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Post by nxc18 »

Whether or not you believe in low/no carbs for everyday health, it is uniquely horrifying that the Diabetes association is promoting a high carb diet.

Having recently made changes to my own eating, which still includes carbs but at a much less extreme amount, I'm amazed at the differences. I don't have diabetes and the doctors say my blood sugar control is very good, but the energy differences I feel before and after eating high carb food is insane.

Diet soda, although technically not containing carbs, prompts a similar insulin response to drinking sugared soda- the result is a blood sugar drop and a loss of energy that makes me want to eat and do nothing; not the best for weight loss.

I would like to see more attention given to what insulin really does: prompt your body to store blood sugar as fat. No wonder filling our bodies with sugar and then using insulin to 'remove' it is a bad idea.

Re: Medical guidelines don’t include a diet low in carbohydrates

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Post by benwr »

dogma1138 wrote: post #19
raverbashing wrote: post #10

Thank the "low-fat/fat-free" craze for that. Associating dietary fat with body fat has been one of the worse mistakes in "nutrition" in the past decades. Now most "low-fat" food has added carbs to deal with the loss of consistency. And even regular foods (especially in the US) have added sugar.

The sugar free/carb free Atkins diet of the 90s and its modern versions isn't any better. Pretty much any diet which is free of anything should be avoided.

How so?

Re: Medical guidelines don’t include a diet low in carbohydrates

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Post by dogma1138 »

thoughtsimple wrote: post #20

I've been on a low carb diet since June. I've lost 30 pounds and my high blood pressure is now gone (I read 97/63 last week). My glucose went from 134 mg/do to 96 in 2 months. A1C from 6.5% to 5.5%. Now normal again. If you've been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes you should try a very low carb diet before anything else. It really seems to work.

Weight loss is a symptom of diabetes, I hope you follow strict medial supervision rather than some diet.

Re: Medical guidelines don’t include a diet low in carbohydrates

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Post by dogma1138 »

benwr wrote: post #22
dogma1138 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sugar free/carb free Atkins diet of the 90s and its modern versions isn't any better. Pretty much any diet which is free of anything should be avoided.

How so?

How so what? A diet that says it's ok to eat a steak but an apple is bad because it has carbs in it?

There is nothing wrong with carbs, carb free diets work because it's easier to create a caloric deficiency not because you some how can eat 3000 cals of w/e and lose weight.

But in the long run they aren't healthy either try being on a low carb diet and exercise at the same time let me know how it's working for you. Especially endurance run for 10km> even 5km a few times a week after a month without carbs and tell me how you feel.

But nvm I see there is not point of even trying to talk with the folks in this thread everything that is remotely against low carb is being down voted to spam :)

Anyhow enjoy your lives just remember to see a doctor often.

Re: Medical guidelines don’t include a diet low in carbohydrates

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Post by dvcrn »

I've been on a low carb diet for a couple of months now. Went a tad stricter 3 weeks ago and am currently 11kg down.

My bodyfat drastically reduced, my belly disappeared and I am feeling a lot healthier. Problem are the more expensive meat-heavy meals that go so far that I just don't enjoy or want to eat anymore - and of course very easy degeneration of muscle mass if you're not careful.

Nevertheless, I'm loving it. I wish I tried this earlier instead of a half-assed diet. I won't be doing it forever but to fast chop down on some body fat, it's amazing.

Re: Medical guidelines don’t include a diet low in carbohydrates

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Post by benwr »

dogma1138 wrote: post #24
benwr wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How so?

How so what? A diet that says it's ok to eat a steak but an apple is bad because it has carbs in it? There is nothing wrong with carbs, carb free diets work because it's easier to create a caloric deficiency not because you some how can eat 3000 cals of w/e and lose weight. But in the long run they aren't healthy either try being on a low carb diet and exercise at the same time let me know how it's working for you. E…

This is somewhat amusing, considering that that is my actual current diet and exercise regimen (for the last several months, with the added restrictions of being almost entirely vegetarian and doing some light weight training and cycling), and I feel pretty awesome.

I do agree that this thread is very monoculture-y though, which makes me uncomfortable.

Re: Medical guidelines don’t include a diet low in carbohydrates

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Post by tremendo »

strommen wrote: post #15
tkyjonathan wrote: post #9

Enough with this dumb Paleo stupidity. Sure you lose weight temporarily. But its not sustainable and greatly reduces your chances of... being alive. Whole-foods plant-based - I know its boring, but there are decades of science behind it. Eat your greens.

The biggest dietary change involved for Paleo is eliminating heavily-processed high-carb foods: bread, pasta, donuts, pizza, candy. This is a major nutritional improvement for everybody. The high-fat aspect just helps people stick with it by making them feel full and also allowing them to indulge.

Paleo is macro-nutrient agnostic. Eliminating heavily processed foods, yes, but no need to sneak in the "high-carb" part. That heavily processed foods are commonly high carb (the examples you give) is not central to the principle. Yams would be a completely natural, non-processed high-carb whole food. As are potatoes. The high-fat aspect is not to help with satiation (protein does that better), it's just the reality of many un-processed or minimally processed whole foods, especially of animal origin but also nuts for example.

Re: Medical guidelines don’t include a diet low in carbohydrates

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Post by Kenji »

thoughtsimple wrote: post #20

I've been on a low carb diet since June. I've lost 30 pounds and my high blood pressure is now gone (I read 97/63 last week). My glucose went from 134 mg/do to 96 in 2 months. A1C from 6.5% to 5.5%. Now normal again. If you've been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes you should try a very low carb diet before anything else. It really seems to work.

Isn't that blood pressure very low? Sounds like close to something that makes you faint.

Re: Medical guidelines don’t include a diet low in carbohydrates

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Post by soneca »

dogma1138 wrote: post #24
benwr wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How so?

How so what? A diet that says it's ok to eat a steak but an apple is bad because it has carbs in it? There is nothing wrong with carbs, carb free diets work because it's easier to create a caloric deficiency not because you some how can eat 3000 cals of w/e and lose weight. But in the long run they aren't healthy either try being on a low carb diet and exercise at the same time let me know how it's working for you. E…

Professional athletes are using low carb diets (http://www.latimes.com/food/la-fo-calcook-side-20130622-stor...)

And there is no real conclusions for long runners either (http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2014/05/26/bjsports-2014-0...)

Re: Medical guidelines don’t include a diet low in carbohydrates

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Post by raverbashing »

jordanb wrote: post #14
raverbashing wrote: post #10

Thank the "low-fat/fat-free" craze for that. Associating dietary fat with body fat has been one of the worse mistakes in "nutrition" in the past decades. Now most "low-fat" food has added carbs to deal with the loss of consistency. And even regular foods (especially in the US) have added sugar.

Not just added carbs, added sugars and starches , the worst kind of carbs.

Yes, but sugars and starches are carbohydrates

(I think you mean high-glycemic index foods).

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