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Employee ID badge monitors you at work – except in bathroom

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Re: Employee ID badge monitors you at work – except in bathroom

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They're pushing that it's mainly for the benefit of the employee, not the employer. Or at least they're trying to make it seem that way. If so, why not just make it a consumer-targeted product? Something only the badge holder can view data for?

> In an interview with The Washington Post, Waber said one financial services client plans to use the badges to increase productivity. Not even out the gate and it's already about monitoring.

Take a look at their website. It's all about monitoring.

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Er, this is basically just a puff piece for a startup. Why are people reading it like it indicates the world is moving in a particular direction? There's no more reason this idea is going to succeed than any other. In fact it seems kind of doomed to fail.

Because it's fucking creepy, that's why. Excuse my language, but I find no less profane adjective to suffice.

And 'puff piece' doesn't seem to me to suffice, either. This isn't TechCrunch or PR Newswire; this is the Washington Post. And the article's pretty laudatory, too, with privacy concerns dismissed out of hand - politely, to be sure, but dismissed out of hand nonetheless. Granted, it's still something of a stretch to say 'this is the way the world is going'. But it's a lot less so than it might be, and that's creepy in itself.

Re: Employee ID badge monitors you at work – except in bathroom

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post #7

You're on company time, why not just have a huge physical neck collar, with a chain, to ensure your paid time is spent productively at your desk. 9-5 you're a company resource after all

I just wanted to write the same content and express my disgust! I totally agree! What a shame! But I guess If they need to monitor their employees to make them work, they have bigger problems!

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Engineers who help create stuff like this are assholes. How could you see this being used for good in any way?

Engineers who help create stuff like this are assholes.

Asshole is s pretty strong word. There's a somewhat different explanation; it posits that engineers are ignorant rather than evil. Cory Doctorow said it better than I ever could:

   Engineers are all basically high-functioning
   autistics who have no idea how normal people
   do stuff.
I got a lot of flack last time I posted that quip; I'll grant that it isn't strictly accurate in a medical sense. But it gets the point across. Engineers simply don't think the same way that muggles think, and in addition they're unable or unwilling to view the world from that different perspective.

Re: Employee ID badge monitors you at work – except in bathroom

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Engineers who help create stuff like this are assholes. How could you see this being used for good in any way?

At least the micro-position-tracking ability makes sense in high(est)-security environments, be them military or private (Apple's secret labs come to my mind, given the rumors of secrecy?). The voice analyzation stuff is really, really weird though.

> At least the micro-position-tracking ability makes sense in high(est)-security environments

I think a solution that can't be defeated by removing a lanyard would be better.

Re: Employee ID badge monitors you at work – except in bathroom

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Despite the claim that data will be aggregated and opt-in collection, it doesn't change the fact that the next company to produce something similar will offer any of those features. So the privacy concerns are very valid. Not least of all because most people take their employee badge home! I don't even see how it will be legitimately helpful to a manager to see how people speak in aggregate. And no doubt people will game the system, etc, etc.

Re: Employee ID badge monitors you at work – except in bathroom

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Er, this is basically just a puff piece for a startup. Why are people reading it like it indicates the world is moving in a particular direction? There's no more reason this idea is going to succeed than any other. In fact it seems kind of doomed to fail.

Are you kidding? This is the wet dream of upper management everywhere.

Re: Employee ID badge monitors you at work – except in bathroom

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Engineers who help create stuff like this are assholes. How could you see this being used for good in any way?

Engineers who help create stuff like this are assholes. Asshole is s pretty strong word. There's a somewhat different explanation; it posits that engineers are ignorant rather than evil. Cory Doctorow said it better than I ever could: Engineers are all basically high-functioning autistics who have no idea how normal people do stuff. I got a lot of flack last time I posted that quip; I'll grant that it isn't strictly…

Some engineers perhaps. All engineers, don´t be silly.

And the capacity for deliberate evil exists, is out there, and is used. Sometimes the engineer is just a tool.

Re: Employee ID badge monitors you at work – except in bathroom

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Engineers who help create stuff like this are assholes. How could you see this being used for good in any way?

Engineers who help create stuff like this are assholes. Asshole is s pretty strong word. There's a somewhat different explanation; it posits that engineers are ignorant rather than evil. Cory Doctorow said it better than I ever could: Engineers are all basically high-functioning autistics who have no idea how normal people do stuff. I got a lot of flack last time I posted that quip; I'll grant that it isn't strictly…

Cory Doctorow says a lot of things. I think he enjoys it. But their correspondence with reality is in my experience questionable. I've worked with many more engineers than he has, and of the lot of them, there's been exactly one who fits that description. And even he'd scruple at designing something like this.
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