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The Dropbox hack is real

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Re: The Dropbox hack is real

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Note the hack was in 2012. Hopefully most people have rotated passwords by now.

Anyone know of automated ways to rotate all the passwords on all of our accounts across the web?

It's a common feature of password managers.

Re: The Dropbox hack is real

#22

50% of the leaked hashes were bcrypt and the other 50% were salted sha1. So, asking the HNers who crack passwords or follow the tech closely and have a good feel: Salted sha1 can be brute forced much quicker, but in practical terms what kind of complexity of password is vulnerable today if it was stored salted sha1 vs bcrypt? And how can this be projected to change in the next couple of years?

Mostly what Troy says is that the sha1 were salted with a salt not available in the files he was provided. That doesn't mean the salt wasn't leaked. But if it wasn't, and the salt was a 128bit, unique to each password, cryptographic random salt, I'd say they are not really vulnerable. So it depends on the strength, randomness and availability of the salt.

Re: The Dropbox hack is real

#23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note the hack was in 2012. Hopefully most people have rotated passwords by now.

Anyone know of automated ways to rotate all the passwords on all of our accounts across the web?

Wow, single point of failure for all my accounts, all my credential, all my personal, private and public data. I would love to use it!

Re: The Dropbox hack is real

#24
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Self hosting is my way to go. Had enough of this. > My wife uses a password manager. If your significant other doesn't (and I'm assuming you do by virtue of being here and being interested in security), go and get them one now! 1Password now has a subscription service for $3 a month and you get the first 6 months for free. How about...not? There are tiny open source tools for every OS. You can do it locally, save it…

> Self hosting is the way to go.

Because you can secure it better than them? Or because you'll be less of a target?

Re: The Dropbox hack is real

#25
Dropbox is about the only service I use a memorable password for, as it has my 1Password file in it, which has my Google one-time-auth codes in it. If I lose my phone while on the road, only remembering my Dropbox password is going to get me out of the mess. Any sensible other solutions here? It's still ~14 characters, but other than making it more random, what are my options?

Re: The Dropbox hack is real

#26
It was pretty obvious the dropbox hack was real several years ago, because lots of spam mail started arriving at my dropbox-unique email almost immediately after the breach. I changed my email to another unique address quickly back then. Unique-per-service email addresses work pretty well as a canary for breaches. Just make sure there is more uniqueness than just the service name to such addresses, or someone could see your pattern and start spamming by guessing popular services.

On a side note, don't forget the time dropbox accepted ANY password during logins - http://www.cnet.com/news/dropbox-confirms-security-glitch-no...

Re: The Dropbox hack is real

#27

Dropbox is about the only service I use a memorable password for, as it has my 1Password file in it, which has my Google one-time-auth codes in it. If I lose my phone while on the road, only remembering my Dropbox password is going to get me out of the mess. Any sensible other solutions here? It's still ~14 characters, but other than making it more random, what are my options?

Xkcd's correct-horse-battery-staple technique?

Re: The Dropbox hack is real

#28

50% of the leaked hashes were bcrypt and the other 50% were salted sha1. So, asking the HNers who crack passwords or follow the tech closely and have a good feel: Salted sha1 can be brute forced much quicker, but in practical terms what kind of complexity of password is vulnerable today if it was stored salted sha1 vs bcrypt? And how can this be projected to change in the next couple of years?

The salts for the sha1 passwords weren't leaked. So they're hard to crack in practical terms. Depends how random they were.

See hashcat docs and benchmarks for complete answers to your questions. The GPU versions of hashcat.

Re: The Dropbox hack is real

#29
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Honestly curious, what should we use?

I'd love it if every time I wanted to log in, I entered my username/email, saw a two factor-auth, and had an email sent with a time sensitive link containing my session credentials. But this would be a pain in the ass if I had a slow connection or used an old email address. And worse, it be totally unsafe if I could (easily?) change the email address attached to the account.

magic link. That's what medium does for email logins, and slack offers the option as well. it's easily one of the safest methods
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