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Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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The entire site hosting this is hilarious - it appears to be an April Fools parody of an academic tech conference and it's very well executed.

"Submissions are double blind and author names must be removed. On the published copy, authors must be ordered by descending number of vowels."

Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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This already exists, it is called flirting.

Given two socially well adjusted participants it allows either party to back down without hurting the other parties feelings and allows everyone to save face. The person escalating the flirtation doesn't feel bad because they aren't outright denied and the respondee isn't put in the awkward situation of having to deny someone.

It also has the added benefit of allowing each person to get to know each other better and figure out if they actually have real 'chemistry' to begin with. Furthermore, attraction isn't binary, you might initially start chatting with someone with the intention of escalating the flirting process but figure out, hey, I just want to be friends with this person! With the SENPAI protocol you might just end up in an ill fated relationship with your would be friend

Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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post #22

This already exists, it is called flirting. Given two socially well adjusted participants it allows either party to back down without hurting the other parties feelings and allows everyone to save face. The person escalating the flirtation doesn't feel bad because they aren't outright denied and the respondee isn't put in the awkward situation of having to deny someone. It also has the added benefit of allowing each…

This technique is described in the paper:

2.4 The Start Out As Friends Protocol The Start Out As Friends Protocol (SOAP), as presented by [9], is summarized in Figure 1. In this protocol, Alice and Bob participate in many exchanges over a long period, transferring pieces of information that provide only incremental evidence of their responses. Over time, each party can become more and more confident in the other’s answer, until the probability of a mismatch is low enough that a JMAP exchange becomes feasible. Unfortunately, the runtime of this protocol may be inordinately long in some cases, and deriving evidence from the individual transmissions can be difficult. There are also highly complex failure modes when dealing with a malicious adversary, as Munroe illustrates in his paper.

[9] R. Munroe. Friends. May 2008. https://xkcd.com/513/

Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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post #18

For those not getting the reference, "senpai" is a Japanese honorific used to address one's upper classman in school. A common trope in Japanese medium is that a character will have a crush on a senpai (equivalent to a prefect or hall monitor in that context), only for them to be utterly oblivious to it. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SempaiKohai This is a witty paper, as other commenters are noting.

> For those not getting the reference, "senpai" is a Japanese honorific used to address one's upper classman in school.

Not just in school. In work situations as well. Note that this is no real equivalent for the opposite (there is Kouhai but it's not used at all in the same way).

Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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Tangential: can somebody explain to me how same-sex speed-dating is sequenced? Two-sex is easy as one sex remains static while the other rotates around, but I can't figure out a solution for single-sex.

Update: a solution that satisfies being practical to organise and that lets you talk to all participants

Update2: http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/55439/gay-speed-dati...

Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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post #22

This already exists, it is called flirting. Given two socially well adjusted participants it allows either party to back down without hurting the other parties feelings and allows everyone to save face. The person escalating the flirtation doesn't feel bad because they aren't outright denied and the respondee isn't put in the awkward situation of having to deny someone. It also has the added benefit of allowing each…

> Given two socially well adjusted participants

So non-socially-well-adjusted, raised-on-the-internet types shouldn't get to date? Your comment is tautological and merely says that people who are good at dating are good at dating.

Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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post #22

This already exists, it is called flirting. Given two socially well adjusted participants it allows either party to back down without hurting the other parties feelings and allows everyone to save face. The person escalating the flirtation doesn't feel bad because they aren't outright denied and the respondee isn't put in the awkward situation of having to deny someone. It also has the added benefit of allowing each…

This technique is described in the paper: 2.4 The Start Out As Friends Protocol The Start Out As Friends Protocol (SOAP), as presented by [9], is summarized in Figure 1. In this protocol, Alice and Bob participate in many exchanges over a long period, transferring pieces of information that provide only incremental evidence of their responses. Over time, each party can become more and more confident in the other’s an…

That's not the same thing.

Flirting does not require that you first be friends with someone and certainly doesn't require a runtime of many months. A successful flirtation can happen within a few minutes.

Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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post #27
post #22

This already exists, it is called flirting. Given two socially well adjusted participants it allows either party to back down without hurting the other parties feelings and allows everyone to save face. The person escalating the flirtation doesn't feel bad because they aren't outright denied and the respondee isn't put in the awkward situation of having to deny someone. It also has the added benefit of allowing each…

> Given two socially well adjusted participants So non-socially-well-adjusted, raised-on-the-internet types shouldn't get to date? Your comment is tautological and merely says that people who are good at dating are good at dating.

You might as well argue that the SENPAI paper implies that people who aren't comfortable with homomorphic encryption shouldn't get to date.
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