Judge Orders Yahoo to Explain How It Recovered ‘Deleted’ Emails in Drugs Case

Post by pbhjpbhj » Sun, Jul 24, 2016, 5:31 PM UTC

codemogul wrote: post #8

Relevant and coincidental personal anecdote: 10 years ago I caught my x-wife in an affair as she was using this same method the communicate with her lover. Her choice of email address for the shared account raised alarms on my firewall, so it was a simple matter to track to her machine. While she had gone to the similar trouble to delete all records on Yahoo (coincidentally), she had been browsing with IE which, due…

Post by kevin_thibedeau » Sun, Jul 24, 2016, 5:55 PM UTC

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #21

codemogul wrote: post #8

Relevant and coincidental personal anecdote: 10 years ago I caught my x-wife in an affair as she was using this same method the communicate with her lover. Her choice of email address for the shared account raised alarms on my firewall, so it was a simple matter to track to her machine. While she had gone to the similar trouble to delete all records on Yahoo (coincidentally), she had been browsing with IE which, due…

I wonder if this would now technically be an offence under the Computer Misuse Act (CMA) as presumably she didn't give you authorisation to access her laptop?

Post by HarryHirsch » Sun, Jul 24, 2016, 6:06 PM UTC

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #21

codemogul wrote: post #8

Relevant and coincidental personal anecdote: 10 years ago I caught my x-wife in an affair as she was using this same method the communicate with her lover. Her choice of email address for the shared account raised alarms on my firewall, so it was a simple matter to track to her machine. While she had gone to the similar trouble to delete all records on Yahoo (coincidentally), she had been browsing with IE which, due…

I wonder if this would now technically be an offence under the Computer Misuse Act (CMA) as presumably she didn't give you authorisation to access her laptop?

Post by Kenji » Sun, Jul 24, 2016, 6:23 PM UTC

gaius wrote: post #6

falcolas wrote: post #2

I'm curious if there will be blowback on Internet email companies if it turns out the emails were not deleted, just archived away from user's access.

If you ever see an auto-complete feature on a website, it's probable that that website is logging every keystroke. If you type "thermal detonators" into Google, but never actually click the button, it's still flagged up aboard the Imperial Command Ship.

Post by rbobby » Sun, Jul 24, 2016, 6:31 PM UTC

TechnicalVault wrote: post #9

HarryHirsch wrote: post #5

Data retention is negotiated and spelled out in detail in NDAs for contract research organizations. It's easy to delete data from servers once a project is done, but the backup tapes also have copies. You can't throw the tapes out, because the company needs them, hence there are agreements what happens to the data and tapes, and nowadays these are standard practice. This is a solved problem in the real world, but som…

The solution with backup tapes is obvious, you encrypt the files on the tapes with session keys and encrypt a copy of the session key with a client/project or project key stored on a separate random access medium. When the project needs to be deleted you destroy the key for that project, job done. The most difficult bit is enforcing the proper ownership and location of files so that you know which ones belong to whic…