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Re: How Japan came to believe in depression

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Post by lotyrin » Thu, Jul 21, 2016, 8:39 PM UTC

butisaidsudo wrote: post #16

wonks wrote: post #13

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The only TRUE way to watch anime. ;-) The anime club at my college was so adamant about this that they put a no-dubs rule in their constitution.

I used to be an audio engineer at a studio that dubbed anime. It was amazing how many smart and talented folks were involved in pumping out a shitty dub. I worked with some really, really good directors and actors, but there's a limit to what they can do. The biggest constraint is the need for perfect mouth flap syncing. The original Japanese versions aren't even very well synced, but English-speaking audiences appar…

Maybe you can answer: Why assume that vocal sounds -> mouth movement dissonance is more grating than stimulus -> reaction dissonance and character -> behavior dissonance (combined with dub-cliche)? Is there the general sentiment in production that the audience is not sophisticated enough to notice the latter, but any 12 year old can notice the former?

Re: How Japan came to believe in depression

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Post by Nadya » Thu, Jul 21, 2016, 8:45 PM UTC

astrange wrote: post #19

leojg wrote: post #15

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True story! All types of content are better to be consumed in their original language when possible!

A lot of Square-Enix games are better in English than Japanese. There's just no traditional way to write western character stereotypes in Japanese (like the pirate city in FFXIV) and they end up sounding like nothing in particular. Or maybe S-E's Japanese writers are just boring?

I disagree. The English ones have no issue with completely change character personas. The way someone talks is as important as what they are actually saying.

Re: How Japan came to believe in depression

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Post by pc2g4d » Fri, Jul 22, 2016, 10:22 PM UTC

Recommended reading: "Crazy Like Us" by Ethan Watters. I'm not sure about the validity of this article, but the Watters book presents a fair amount of evidence that mental disorders are in many ways socially constructed by individual cultures. And often the construction is sped along by inventive pharmaceutical company marketing departments.

Re: How Japan came to believe in depression

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Post by wonks » Fri, Jul 29, 2016, 6:27 PM UTC

butisaidsudo wrote: post #16

wonks wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only TRUE way to watch anime. ;-) The anime club at my college was so adamant about this that they put a no-dubs rule in their constitution.

I used to be an audio engineer at a studio that dubbed anime. It was amazing how many smart and talented folks were involved in pumping out a shitty dub. I worked with some really, really good directors and actors, but there's a limit to what they can do. The biggest constraint is the need for perfect mouth flap syncing. The original Japanese versions aren't even very well synced, but English-speaking audiences appar…

I think I read once that in Japan they animate first and then record voiceovers afterwards?