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Master Plan, Part Deux

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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

#21

To anyone who's paid close attention to Tesla and to Elon's various offhand remarks to the press and on Twitter, this was all easy to see coming, every bit of it. But now that he's confirmed it all officially: this NUTS . This is so awesome. The press is going to go crazy with this. I wonder what will happen to Uber...seems like it will be hard for them to compete with the rates of cars that don't have to pay their d…

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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

#23
> "When used correctly, [partially autonomous driving] is already significantly safer than a person driving by themselves"

If you're an American, you're twice as likely to die with a steering wheel in your hands as you are to die at the hands of a murderer. Human-driven vehicle deaths cause grave second-order suffering for families and friends - and hurt the economy.

A shift to technologies safer than human-driven cars would dramatically reduce human suffering and should be welcomed.

I do wonder, though, how this would reshape our cities - if we're not careful. Besides direct costs for the car, fuel, and maintenance, the main disincentive to driving is how damn boring it is. What happens when we turn fully-autonomous vehicles into luxury entertainment centers? I suspect that, if we're not smart about this shift, we could see wild sprawl on a scale that would dwarf the mid-20th century sprawl we saw in Los Angeles and elsewhere.

On the whole, though, it's a beautiful thing.

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

#24

To anyone who's paid close attention to Tesla and to Elon's various offhand remarks to the press and on Twitter, this was all easy to see coming, every bit of it. But now that he's confirmed it all officially: this NUTS . This is so awesome. The press is going to go crazy with this. I wonder what will happen to Uber...seems like it will be hard for them to compete with the rates of cars that don't have to pay their d…

Uber's been likely working on self-driving cars, potentially in partnership with Google. What Tesla has as an advantage though, is an assembly line to produce lots of quality cars. In other words, Tesla will likely be ready for the future of transportation before Uber.

Tesla's other advantage is a global fleet that is actively logging millions of real-world miles a day. I don't think that can be understated at this stage.

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

#25
post #12

"...transition the role of bus driver to that of fleet manager..." Does he really think that ?

I hope I will live to use that bus, which won't be handled by driver, who thinks that he is god in the bus and can do whatever he wants while he has steering wheel in his hands. i hope, this will bring few things which will improve my commute:

- on time performance (I'm yet to leave bus stop in the morning on-time after about 10 years -- bus is always late); - less traffic in the bus terminal, where drives always make wrong assumption and create traffic where it could have been avoided; - safer commute (not that it isn't safe enough now, but there are drivers who prefer driving way too fast).

Oh well, this is only dreams.

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

#26

To anyone who's paid close attention to Tesla and to Elon's various offhand remarks to the press and on Twitter, this was all easy to see coming, every bit of it. But now that he's confirmed it all officially: this NUTS . This is so awesome. The press is going to go crazy with this. I wonder what will happen to Uber...seems like it will be hard for them to compete with the rates of cars that don't have to pay their d…

Uber's been likely working on self-driving cars, potentially in partnership with Google. What Tesla has as an advantage though, is an assembly line to produce lots of quality cars. In other words, Tesla will likely be ready for the future of transportation before Uber.

I also think that Tesla will have an easier time acquiring top talent in both the autonomy software and manufacturing. Uber/Google have to partner with Old Guard automotive companies.

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

#27

> We expect that worldwide regulatory approval will require something on the order of 6 billion miles (10 billion km). Current fleet learning is happening at just over 3 million miles (5 million km) per day. This seems very significant for Tesla vs competitors. Yes Google has a strong technology lead today, but how long will that last when Tesla is collecting more miles of data every day than Google has collected in…

how many miles of data has googled accumulated is a unanswered question. Also does that mean 6B miles combining all autonomous vehicle manufacturers?

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

#28
> Traffic congestion would improve due to increased passenger areal density by eliminating the center aisle and putting seats where there are currently entryways

I don't see how automation reduces the need to get on the bus.

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

#29

To anyone who's paid close attention to Tesla and to Elon's various offhand remarks to the press and on Twitter, this was all easy to see coming, every bit of it. But now that he's confirmed it all officially: this NUTS . This is so awesome. The press is going to go crazy with this. I wonder what will happen to Uber...seems like it will be hard for them to compete with the rates of cars that don't have to pay their d…

Where has he mentioned semis or buses? I thought I had been paying close attention.

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

#30

To anyone who's paid close attention to Tesla and to Elon's various offhand remarks to the press and on Twitter, this was all easy to see coming, every bit of it. But now that he's confirmed it all officially: this NUTS . This is so awesome. The press is going to go crazy with this. I wonder what will happen to Uber...seems like it will be hard for them to compete with the rates of cars that don't have to pay their d…

Uber's been likely working on self-driving cars, potentially in partnership with Google. What Tesla has as an advantage though, is an assembly line to produce lots of quality cars. In other words, Tesla will likely be ready for the future of transportation before Uber.

But with Tesla's open policies, such as open sourcing all their patents, maybe they will happily supply Uber with all the self driving cars Uber might want, plus the API's to remotely control them?
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