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Tor veteran exits, shuts down critical 'Tonga' node and relays
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Re: Tor veteran exits, shuts down critical 'Tonga' node and relays
#22To me, this feels a lot like what transpired with https://lavabit.com/ . Of course, that was a service operated by a company, not a open source software and a distributed network, but there might be paralells. If you haven't read about it, read the post mortem on the Lavabit page. To me, it's very likely that the government demanded backdoors in TOR code itself, or backdoor access to critical TOR infrastructure (brid…
Re: Tor veteran exits, shuts down critical 'Tonga' node and relays
#23To me, this feels a lot like what transpired with https://lavabit.com/ . Of course, that was a service operated by a company, not a open source software and a distributed network, but there might be paralells. If you haven't read about it, read the post mortem on the Lavabit page. To me, it's very likely that the government demanded backdoors in TOR code itself, or backdoor access to critical TOR infrastructure (brid…
If that were the case, why give a months notice? If the person felt the security of his relays were compromised, I would expect them to take them down immediately and give notice afterwards.
Of course it's also possible that it's all due to some infighting within the project or other issues we don't know about.
But the only reason for me for being so vague, in a critical project like this, is the potential of vulnerability.
He must have known that not mentioning any details would raise concerns like mine.
Re: Tor veteran exits, shuts down critical 'Tonga' node and relays
#24Re: Tor veteran exits, shuts down critical 'Tonga' node and relays
#25As for why he is announcing he is shutting it down rather than just pulling the plug, pulling the plug may well be considered obstruction of justice, but just refusing to donate materially can't be prevented by the government. It may well be that lawyers have advised him that by announcing his decision to not participate it gives the government reasonable notice to be able to find an alternative or take some action, and counting on there being no practical way for the government to respond without revealing that they are involved.
Edit: It may also be possible that he has become aware of a 'looming' threat to de-anonymize the service but can't speak of it, and he is announcing that he is pulling out since if he is subsequently compelled not to pull out it will act as a canary.
Re: Tor veteran exits, shuts down critical 'Tonga' node and relays
#26To me, this feels a lot like what transpired with https://lavabit.com/ . Of course, that was a service operated by a company, not a open source software and a distributed network, but there might be paralells. If you haven't read about it, read the post mortem on the Lavabit page. To me, it's very likely that the government demanded backdoors in TOR code itself, or backdoor access to critical TOR infrastructure (brid…
Out of curiosity, what alternative(s) would you use?
Re: Tor veteran exits, shuts down critical 'Tonga' node and relays
#27To me, this feels a lot like what transpired with https://lavabit.com/ . Of course, that was a service operated by a company, not a open source software and a distributed network, but there might be paralells. If you haven't read about it, read the post mortem on the Lavabit page. To me, it's very likely that the government demanded backdoors in TOR code itself, or backdoor access to critical TOR infrastructure (brid…
> Can't be sure, of course, but I would not feel comfortable with using TOR for anything sensitive anymore. Out of curiosity, what alternative(s) would you use?
Re: Tor veteran exits, shuts down critical 'Tonga' node and relays
#28So what TOR alternatives are there? I came across this on here I think a few weeks back http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/99859 but I'm not sure it is up and running or even if it is.
Re: Tor veteran exits, shuts down critical 'Tonga' node and relays
#29How is a scheduled shutdown (2016-08-31) a "torpedoing"?
Re: Tor veteran exits, shuts down critical 'Tonga' node and relays
#30To me, this feels a lot like what transpired with https://lavabit.com/ . Of course, that was a service operated by a company, not a open source software and a distributed network, but there might be paralells. If you haven't read about it, read the post mortem on the Lavabit page. To me, it's very likely that the government demanded backdoors in TOR code itself, or backdoor access to critical TOR infrastructure (brid…
Maybe some fingers of the government are demanding a backdoor, but other fingers of the government want tor to be as secure as possible. Tor is useful for the operations of national intelligence agents, too, and can only maintain that use when they know it doesn't have a backdoor which say the Chinese could then discover and exploit.
Is it possible that maybe the US military have gone on to alternative methods of hiding their identity. If the NSA can mandate backdoor access to every data centre in the country then couldn't they work with the military to use those backdoors to hide their own identities. To an observer it looks like someone is accessing Google but in actuality it's a CIA field agent sending top secret information to the Pentagon using a backdoor in a Google data centre.