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Re: Virtual Box 5.1

#22

I'm not sure why, but my Ubuntu image with unity always thinks it should run at 10fps. I had to hard set the frame rate in compizConfig at 60 fps to get it to run smoothly. Putting it here because it took me quite a while to figure out why it was 3D accelerated but still so slow.

i3wm all the way

Re: Virtual Box 5.1

#23

I'm not sure why, but my Ubuntu image with unity always thinks it should run at 10fps. I had to hard set the frame rate in compizConfig at 60 fps to get it to run smoothly. Putting it here because it took me quite a while to figure out why it was 3D accelerated but still so slow.

Not sure if it is related (could be a Cinnamon problem) but when I run the Cinnamon desktop environment in a VirtualBox VM it says it is using software rendering.

Re: Virtual Box 5.1

#24
post #12

I don't see any security-related fixes. Is VBox that solid or am I missing something? I remember also looking at previous versions and not finding much...

"VMM: many more fixes", "GUI: various bugfixes and internal cleanup", "Audio: various bugfixes and infrastructure improvements" - who know what that means. If nobody disclosed it externally as a vulnerability, they could just call things "bugfixes".

But it's not like they don't get any security issues at all: https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=virtualbox

Re: Virtual Box 5.1

#25
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I noticed the same thing. VMWare (at least in my experience) runs a GUI in Unity mode at pretty much the same speed as native for xubuntu guests. I/O performance over shared folders is really good in VMWare too. The only problem is VMWare has abandoned Linux guests in Unity mode for newer releases of VMWare, which likely means you'll be stuck on 7.x and running older guest versions until the end of time. For me, Virt…

VMware seems to have mostly abandoned Workstation. The team was fired. They even encourage you to no longer use their actually-working binary tools, instead telling you to use the often-broken-it-seems open source versions. Fortunately for Windows hosts, the new Linux personality for NT might be good enough for dev work. Still sucks for people that want to use VMs in a more serious way.

> VMware seems to have mostly abandoned Workstation.

There were just updates for Workstation[1] and Player[2] less than two months ago.

> The team was fired.

The team was replaced, and not simply to do only maintenance patches: "They’ve got a great surprise lined up for Q3, something very interesting for Q4, and something very big for H1."[3]

[N.B. I work for VMware, though not in End User Computing]

[1] http://pubs.vmware.com/Release_Notes/en/workstation/11/works...

[2] http://pubs.vmware.com/Release_Notes/en/player/7/player-714-...

[3] http://blogs.vmware.com/workstation/2016/07/meet-the-team.ht...

Re: Virtual Box 5.1

#26

If you're using Vagrant, stick to 5.0.24 until this issue is closed: https://github.com/mitchellh/vagrant/issues/7411

Does this have to do with just the version number? Or something more?

There's an open PR to add 5.1 support, and it seems to just be a bit-for-bit identical copy of the 5.0 code which Vagrant inexplicably requires a separate driver for: https://github.com/mitchellh/vagrant/pull/7574

All the heavy-duty OOP-first power of Ruby at their fingertips, and people still just copy-and-paste massive files to change a version string...

Re: Virtual Box 5.1

#27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VMware seems to have mostly abandoned Workstation. The team was fired. They even encourage you to no longer use their actually-working binary tools, instead telling you to use the often-broken-it-seems open source versions. Fortunately for Windows hosts, the new Linux personality for NT might be good enough for dev work. Still sucks for people that want to use VMs in a more serious way.

> VMware seems to have mostly abandoned Workstation. There were just updates for Workstation[1] and Player[2] less than two months ago. > The team was fired. The team was replaced, and not simply to do only maintenance patches: "They’ve got a great surprise lined up for Q3, something very interesting for Q4, and something very big for H1."[3] [N.B. I work for VMware, though not in End User Computing] [1] http://pubs.…

Can you give any insight on the future of Linux guests on Windows hosts using the free Player version?

I just want to be able to run xubuntu 16.x (and newer when it comes out) in Unity mode without issues but from what I read only 14.x works because none of the guest tooling has been updated.

It's a pity that this use case seems to have put on the back burner. This type of set up is the only way for a lot of people to work without resorting to buying 2 computers or dual booting.

Re: Virtual Box 5.1

#28

Has anyone done performance tests with different versions of VirtualBox? I often see entries in the changelog relating to "significantly improved performance".

I did a test for VMWare player verses Virtualbox and its no competition, VMWare is hands down a lot faster especially on anything GUI. I like what Virtualbox gives us but the performance is a problem.

I agree on the speed, VMWare has performed faster, at least for me. I like the price of VirtualBox, its size, and easy install. VMWare seems to install more things (it is heavier).

Re: Virtual Box 5.1

#29

With Oracle's rocky reputation around open source, I'm surprised that VirutalBox is still going strong and under active development. There doesn't seem to be any kind of commercial "enterprise version" that they license for big bucks... what is their incentive for keeping this thing going?

VirtualBox is last in the alphabet. We're safe for awhile.

Re: Virtual Box 5.1

#30
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did a test for VMWare player verses Virtualbox and its no competition, VMWare is hands down a lot faster especially on anything GUI. I like what Virtualbox gives us but the performance is a problem.

I noticed the same thing. VMWare (at least in my experience) runs a GUI in Unity mode at pretty much the same speed as native for xubuntu guests. I/O performance over shared folders is really good in VMWare too. The only problem is VMWare has abandoned Linux guests in Unity mode for newer releases of VMWare, which likely means you'll be stuck on 7.x and running older guest versions until the end of time. For me, Virt…

Wasn't 64 in 64 a config issue? Enable VT-X?
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