100 Days of Swift: The Tutorials

Post by hundchenkatze » Wed, Jul 13, 2016, 1:19 AM UTC

izacus wrote: post #16

zalmoxes wrote: post #5

I'd like to see some Swift tutorials out there that are not related to Cocoa and other iOS/OSX frameworks. I've tried Swift several times, but as a sysadmin, I'm interested in cli apps, servers, network libraries etc. I either already know how to do these things or can find out quickly in python/ruby/go or even rust. But whenever I try to find out how to do these already familiar things in Swift, it's a pain to find…

Well that would be hard because Swift doesn't have a standard library comparable to other languages - most of the things you're used to there is provided the Cocoa. Which also puts a big question mark over the cross-platform lip service - without a good standard library you won't be able to decently write cross-platform software. Just like it was pointless to use ObjC beforehand due to dependence of libraries on Appl…

Post by jaegerpicker » Wed, Jul 13, 2016, 2:39 AM UTC

vegabook wrote: post #18

Serious question: Is Swift actually getting any traction? I saw the flurry of excitement when it was announced, but it seems the interest around this language has fallen off a cliff. Am I supposed to be excited about its intrinsic features or am I only supposed to be excited if I'm firmly locked inside Apple's garden? Should I learn this instead of Rust/Ocaml/Elixir to further my skills independently of any Apple-ori…

Post by steveklabnik » Wed, Jul 13, 2016, 3:33 PM UTC

jaegerpicker wrote: post #23

vegabook wrote: post #18

Serious question: Is Swift actually getting any traction? I saw the flurry of excitement when it was announced, but it seems the interest around this language has fallen off a cliff. Am I supposed to be excited about its intrinsic features or am I only supposed to be excited if I'm firmly locked inside Apple's garden? Should I learn this instead of Rust/Ocaml/Elixir to further my skills independently of any Apple-ori…

It's one of the fastest growing languages out there. I don't think OCaml or Haskell are missing any features of swift but I definitely believe swift to be an much easier to learn language that supports the majority of the features those languages support. It's also more likely to be able to be used on the job than those languages. I'm a big fan of Rust but it's growth has been slow and Elixir is really aimed at a dif…

Post by steveklabnik » Wed, Jul 13, 2016, 8:56 PM UTC

jaegerpicker wrote: post #26

steveklabnik wrote: post #25

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How are you measuring Rust's growth?

Number of available jobs, open source projects (outside of mozilla who created it), tiobe index growth, etc... It's less a totally qualified index of growth vs a general informed opinion. To be cleared I really enjoy Rust and hope that it grows like crazy soon but compared to Swift I think it's growth has been smaller.