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Pinboard Turns Seven

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Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by Jerry2 »

idlewords wrote: post #15
Jerry2 wrote: post #10

I switched to Pinboard few months ago when Delicious committed seppuku and made their site completely unusable. First, Delicious just shut down their site for something like a week, then they resurrected some ancient version of their site that looks & behaves like it's from 2007. Then they switched to an old domain (del.icio.us) and broke every bookmarklet and plugin that used their API. (I'm guessing they're plannin…

I talked at length with Tony Aly, who is the new Delicious owner. He is not incompetent and I believe he is making a good-faith effort to get the site back to life. But it's a difficult migration to make. The site was hemmorhaging money on AWS, which made it imperative to try to move it to dedicated hosting. The code base and data store has all kinds of issues stemming from the fact that it's been rewritten so many t…

Thank you for this post! I find it bewildering that I got to know the truth from you and not from Delicious management. Why they couldn't keep everyone in the loop is beyond me. A single tweet along the lines "we're working on it, stay tuned" would have gone a long way. Instead we got radio silence. I lost a lot of my research time when I couldn't get to my links and notes. I'm sure others experienced the same anguish.

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Post by polpo »

winteriscoming wrote: post #17

I haven't hosted/run a site like this before. So I'm curious whether 17K a year to run a product like this is normal. If the author is willing to divulge the details, would love to know what takes the major chunk of that 17K.

He is certainly willing to divulge the details. He's posted his expenses yearly. Here are 2015's: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15RdDg3XyOGzW1T0Wjw9M...

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Post by [deleted] »

winteriscoming wrote: post #17

I haven't hosted/run a site like this before. So I'm curious whether 17K a year to run a product like this is normal. If the author is willing to divulge the details, would love to know what takes the major chunk of that 17K.

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Post by buro9 »

polpo wrote: post #22
winteriscoming wrote: post #17

I haven't hosted/run a site like this before. So I'm curious whether 17K a year to run a product like this is normal. If the author is willing to divulge the details, would love to know what takes the major chunk of that 17K.

He is certainly willing to divulge the details. He's posted his expenses yearly. Here are 2015's: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15RdDg3XyOGzW1T0Wjw9M...

Mine looks much the same, I pay GBP 6,900 per year to run 300 forums serving 200k users per month and over 8m page views per month.

Also in my costs are email (transactional via Mailgun, marketing via MailJet), DMARCian, AWS S3 for avatars and attachments, SSL (still paying for a wildcard, perhaps let's encrypt next time round), Google Apps for email to run the business.

It's realistic to spend around USD 10k per year running a moderately successful medium sized web business.

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Post by nicolas_t »

exolymph wrote: post #9
striking wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a joke. https://slashdot.org/story/01/10/23/1816257/apple-releases-i... I'm glad there are people who tell jokes, honestly.

I must admit, it was totally non-obvious to me that this was a joke.

I got the joke directly but it really relies on the shared culture of oldies who still remember hanging out on slashdot :-)

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Post by scotu »

I subscribed to Pinboard recently, when I lost any unreasonable hope I still had for delicious.

I knew 100% this was a low maintainance business, but I admit reading "the first wave of subscription renewals came due" and "I did almost nothing on the site this year except keep it running" almost in the same phrase hit me like a punch in the stomach; envy for his business acumen/talent I suppose :)

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Post by l0b0 »

Pinboard user since 2012 here, after importing about 12k bookmarks from Delicious (17k now). It's the best kind of low tech service: It's all about bookmarking, not ads or gimmicks. The UI loading time seems O(1) rather than Delicious' O(n).

The only problem now is that there doesn't seem to be a working add-on for Firefox on Android. Does anyone know of one?

Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by amix »

As a long term Pinboard customer I dislike this "I am doing nothing and I am proud of it" mentality and I will unsubscribe.

Pinboard has been the same for years and I feel little attachment to the product.

I am unsure what to switch to, but Pinterest looks like an interesing and innovative solution.

Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by idlewords »

amix wrote: post #28

As a long term Pinboard customer I dislike this "I am doing nothing and I am proud of it" mentality and I will unsubscribe. Pinboard has been the same for years and I feel little attachment to the product. I am unsure what to switch to, but Pinterest looks like an interesing and innovative solution.

I'm not proud of it! But good luck out there.

Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by idlewords »

aerique wrote: post #18
jalami wrote: post #6

Pinboard is a great service. I like the paid, ad-free model with a nice open API. I haven't had my Pinboard for long, but already think I'm going to keep it going for a long time. It's one of the few cloud services I don't fear being locked into as I can just pull all my data whenever. Self-hosted alternatives usually require some kind of interactive website front-end being set up or have some jenky browser extension…

There are apparently some issues with the data export that require help from the owner: "When I quit Pinboard, he had to make a special dump to actually give me all my hosted data. If you still use pinboard, verify your exports." From https://mobile.twitter.com/xach/status/751518747941363712

I believe the issue was exporting the full content of notes and tweets. I'll make a special dump for anyone.
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