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Re: Indian phones are weird

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Does anyone know if the Firefox phones are still around / in use in India? I actually had a friend import the Intex Firefox phone (don't remember the name, it's got 128mb of RAM and a dead-end FXOS version). It's utterly painful to use - I hope the situation has gotten better for users there.

> It's utterly painful to use - I hope the situation has gotten better for users there. I bought the bright orange ZTE Open C fxos phone to try it out. Haven't done much more with it that travel around with it, mostly using it as a primary phone for calls. The battery life is insane on that one - I went about 4-5 days without charging it when I was traveling (barely any calls, mostly standby). The good part was the H…

> I went about 4-5 days without charging it when I was traveling (barely any calls, mostly standby).

To be fair, most Android devices and iPhone would achieve similar battery life if you're not actually using the phone.

Apple claims to get 10 days of standby out of an iPhone. I would imagine with 'barely any calls' or using the device you would get somewhere between 5 to 10 days. 5 days doesn't really sound that impressive.

Re: Indian phones are weird

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post #19

I know that Intex will soon be shipping (currently is shipping?) phones with SailfishOS (Jolla's OS). I've been using SailfishOS for almost two years, and I confidently say that underneath the GUI, it is just a regular GNU/Linux system[1]. Why do I bring this up? Jolla, and the community are developing a more inclusive mobile OS (that has Android app compatibility, and can be ported to Android devices relatively easi…

Which device are you using for your SailfishOS? I am planning to install it on my Nexus 5.

Re: Indian phones are weird

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's utterly painful to use - I hope the situation has gotten better for users there. I bought the bright orange ZTE Open C fxos phone to try it out. Haven't done much more with it that travel around with it, mostly using it as a primary phone for calls. The battery life is insane on that one - I went about 4-5 days without charging it when I was traveling (barely any calls, mostly standby). The good part was the H…

> I went about 4-5 days without charging it when I was traveling (barely any calls, mostly standby). To be fair, most Android devices and iPhone would achieve similar battery life if you're not actually using the phone. Apple claims to get 10 days of standby out of an iPhone. I would imagine with 'barely any calls' or using the device you would get somewhere between 5 to 10 days. 5 days doesn't really sound that impr…

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Re: Indian phones are weird

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post #16
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Slightly related, one of the worst things about the Indian phones and telcos are the spam advertisements that have subscription opt-ins by default. Essentially, you will get several sms messages a day which if you accidentally hit one of the keys on your phone ( which is actually very easy ), you get billed $1 every week ( think daily fortunes / love poems / etc ). It's very easy to accidentally opt-in to several of…

May I know which operator was that? I've used Airtel and Vodafone in India, and I didn't had any "services" enabled by default. By the way, there's a centralized DND registry in India called "Commercial Communications Customer Preference Portal" [0]. You just need to send an SMS to enable/disable unsolicited commercial calls/SMS. It has been very effective so far. [0] http://www.nccptrai.gov.in/

That thing is a joke. I'm registered as 'fully blocked' and I still get spam SMS. Last few offenders were EaseMyTrip, the Ministry of Tourism and some guy called Hemant.

Re: Indian phones are weird

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post #19

I know that Intex will soon be shipping (currently is shipping?) phones with SailfishOS (Jolla's OS). I've been using SailfishOS for almost two years, and I confidently say that underneath the GUI, it is just a regular GNU/Linux system[1]. Why do I bring this up? Jolla, and the community are developing a more inclusive mobile OS (that has Android app compatibility, and can be ported to Android devices relatively easi…

One thing to note there - currently Android compatibility is only available on Jolla phones, not third-party ports, due to their licensing agreement with Myriad. Hopefully, any official releases on third-party phones will be able to include it as well.

Re: Indian phones are weird

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used one telco provider in Philippines for a while that did something like this, sending lots of SMS spam. I had to threaten cancellation to get it slowed down. In the USA, T-Mobile spammed me like this. Again, very difficult to stop the spam. I think eventually this will be unstoppable, at which point I guess I'll stop using SMS and/or stop using phones. I can't wait 'til the day I'm sitting in a group, and everyo…

It is fairly easy to block a number now.

I'm on a pay as you go plan and have never seen this.

Re: Indian phones are weird

#27
post #6

Slightly related, one of the worst things about the Indian phones and telcos are the spam advertisements that have subscription opt-ins by default. Essentially, you will get several sms messages a day which if you accidentally hit one of the keys on your phone ( which is actually very easy ), you get billed $1 every week ( think daily fortunes / love poems / etc ). It's very easy to accidentally opt-in to several of…

I used one telco provider in Philippines for a while that did something like this, sending lots of SMS spam. I had to threaten cancellation to get it slowed down. In the USA, T-Mobile spammed me like this. Again, very difficult to stop the spam. I think eventually this will be unstoppable, at which point I guess I'll stop using SMS and/or stop using phones. I can't wait 'til the day I'm sitting in a group, and everyo…

Must've been years ago on TMO. In fact I think there was some suit. Since about 2013, they've changed a LOT.

Data is much better now, coverage is very good in metros, and sucks outside, but that's fine with me. Guess if you live in certain areas (e.g. Los Gatos, CA) you might have to get VZ or something - though I hear they're doing a lot to fix that (e.g. band12 LTE using 700Mhz spectrum).

Re: Indian phones are weird

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post #19

I know that Intex will soon be shipping (currently is shipping?) phones with SailfishOS (Jolla's OS). I've been using SailfishOS for almost two years, and I confidently say that underneath the GUI, it is just a regular GNU/Linux system[1]. Why do I bring this up? Jolla, and the community are developing a more inclusive mobile OS (that has Android app compatibility, and can be ported to Android devices relatively easi…

One thing to note there - currently Android compatibility is only available on Jolla phones, not third-party ports, due to their licensing agreement with Myriad. Hopefully, any official releases on third-party phones will be able to include it as well.

> Hopefully, any official releases on third-party phones will be able to include it as well.

Yes, while I have no official word (I'm just a fan), I think this will be the case. As long as it's an official port done by Jolla, Myriad/Alien Dalvik should be available.

Re: Indian phones are weird

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post #19

I know that Intex will soon be shipping (currently is shipping?) phones with SailfishOS (Jolla's OS). I've been using SailfishOS for almost two years, and I confidently say that underneath the GUI, it is just a regular GNU/Linux system[1]. Why do I bring this up? Jolla, and the community are developing a more inclusive mobile OS (that has Android app compatibility, and can be ported to Android devices relatively easi…

Which device are you using for your SailfishOS? I am planning to install it on my Nexus 5.

I'm using the first Jolla phone.

Note, that if you use the 3rd party port of SailfishOS on your Nexus5, it doesn't come with the Myriad/Alien, Android compatibility layer.

The community however has developed and released sfdroid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOU8fa0ZLT0

Re: Indian phones are weird

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post #16
post #6

Slightly related, one of the worst things about the Indian phones and telcos are the spam advertisements that have subscription opt-ins by default. Essentially, you will get several sms messages a day which if you accidentally hit one of the keys on your phone ( which is actually very easy ), you get billed $1 every week ( think daily fortunes / love poems / etc ). It's very easy to accidentally opt-in to several of…

May I know which operator was that? I've used Airtel and Vodafone in India, and I didn't had any "services" enabled by default. By the way, there's a centralized DND registry in India called "Commercial Communications Customer Preference Portal" [0]. You just need to send an SMS to enable/disable unsolicited commercial calls/SMS. It has been very effective so far. [0] http://www.nccptrai.gov.in/

A couple of years back, I started getting daily SMS in my Airtel mobile about some female actor's latest movies or whatever, without any action on my side. It took a few days for me to realise that I am losing 50p/day for getting those messages. The messages stopped after a call to the service centre; but I did not get the money back.
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