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Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

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Re: Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can apply your logic to basically any entity in history to belittle them. Everything can be positioned as a "massive case of blah " if that is your goal.

"Tesla is just growing off of government subsidies!" etc.

No, making cars was never outright illegal. Operating a cap company, (or rather an illegal one), without proper licensing was. Operating a hotel out of your house was. Nice strawman.

Re: Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

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post #11

Wow, so the crown of the "fintech" movement is just as bad as the banks, and the two biggest Silicon Valley successes of the last decade, Uber and AirBnB, are really just cases of massively successful regulatory arbitrage. Nice innovation!

You can apply your logic to basically any entity in history to belittle them. Everything can be positioned as a "massive case of blah " if that is your goal.

No you can't. Was there ever a law explicitly saying coding an OS was illegal? Versus operating a cab company without registering with the government to prove compliance with laws already in place to deal with those? Or similarly running an illegal hotel out of your house?

Re: Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

#23
post #9

Wow, so the crown of the "fintech" movement is just as bad as the banks, and the two biggest Silicon Valley successes of the last decade, Uber and AirBnB, are really just cases of massively successful regulatory arbitrage. Nice innovation!

People have dreamt about on-demand car hailing for a long time, but it's always been a pipe dream - building the two-sided network is such too hard and too expensive, and a small network is just not worth using as a consumer. How is this not innovation?

on demand car hailing = taxis?

Re: Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

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post #10

The latest disclosures Tuesday, uncovered by a company probe, found that in the last few weeks of December 2009, Laplanche and three relatives took out 32 loans for a total of $722,800. All but three of those loans were repaid in full over the next two months, implying they were taken out to artificially goose Lending Club’s loan origination numbers. If true, would that be considered fraud?

Nah, that's 'growth hacking' /s.

Really, yes obviously that's fraud but apparently it's perfectly normal as long as you don't get caught.

Artificially inflating the numbers whilst shopping for investments is definitely not acceptable. Pumping money around is an old trick to inflate the visible size of a company, some of these schemes are surprisingly hard to detect (the one here definitely isn't).

I'm somewhat surprised that there was no oversight in place that would have stopped this, that's serious money.

Re: Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

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post #10

The latest disclosures Tuesday, uncovered by a company probe, found that in the last few weeks of December 2009, Laplanche and three relatives took out 32 loans for a total of $722,800. All but three of those loans were repaid in full over the next two months, implying they were taken out to artificially goose Lending Club’s loan origination numbers. If true, would that be considered fraud?

I feel like almost every startup that "made it" used dark-hat growth hacking tactics to pad their numbers. But the other companies were typically in the consumer internet space. I would expect some additional rules to exist for a highly regulated market like Finance.

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Re: Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

#26
post #3

In just world this would result in a prison sentence, banishment from stock exchanges, and revocation of their corporate charter. The fact that there is no capital punishment for companies, especially public ones, provides a moral hazard.

> capital punishment for companies

That's the second time today I see this, is this some kind of meme?

Re: Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

#27
post #19
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People have dreamt about on-demand car hailing for a long time, but it's always been a pipe dream - building the two-sided network is such too hard and too expensive, and a small network is just not worth using as a consumer. How is this not innovation?

I have been able to pick up a phone and call the cab company for decades.

yeah, but unless you're in a city like New York (possibly a handful of others) the wait is FOREVER. In Phoenix it was routine to have to wait half an hour or more. Same in SLC. It's awful. Uber and Lyft reduced the wait to a fraction of the time with better, quicker and cheaper service.

Re: Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

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Other than investing in their stock, there's an argument to be made that it might actually be a relatively safe time to invest in their loans.

That's my logic, I bought stock, and continue to put money into the loans.

(I have zero affiliation with Lending Club, just like the returns.)

Re: Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

#29
post #23
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People have dreamt about on-demand car hailing for a long time, but it's always been a pipe dream - building the two-sided network is such too hard and too expensive, and a small network is just not worth using as a consumer. How is this not innovation?

on demand car hailing = taxis?

For me still this equation holds true. Taxes are abundant and cheap in Singapore. Riding in someone's car makes me uncomfortable. (But that is just me, I suppose)

Re: Lending Club plans layoffs, discloses loans to former CEO and family members

#30
post #11

Wow, so the crown of the "fintech" movement is just as bad as the banks, and the two biggest Silicon Valley successes of the last decade, Uber and AirBnB, are really just cases of massively successful regulatory arbitrage. Nice innovation!

You can apply your logic to basically any entity in history to belittle them. Everything can be positioned as a "massive case of blah " if that is your goal.

For what it's worth, this economist agrees: https://mobile.twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/746483638158561...
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