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Re: Branding Vice

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Post by I_HALF_CATS » Tue, Jun 21, 2016, 4:08 AM UTC

tcdent wrote: post #3

What a trashy, incongruent rant of an article. Regardless, a vast majority of their content doesn't include any reference to marketable brands. If the OP is accusing them of being a PR news agency, I have seen very little evidence of it. Questioning wether they are a business trying to earn a profit is incredibly naive. However, if I was to criticize anything about their journalistic integrity, it's the tendency for…

And to think they tried to hire me.

I guess in some multiverse you're simultaneously trying to advocate and discredit me at the same time.

Since I'm the author of the article and you seem passionate about the subject if you have any specific criticisms. Like a fact I got wrong or something please share! Unlike Vice, I'm open to corrections.

Re: Branding Vice

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Post by I_HALF_CATS » Tue, Jun 21, 2016, 4:16 AM UTC

tn13 wrote: post #13

The rant might be genuine. Post McInnes VICE was not as provocative as it use to be. At present VICE just brings the politically correct news reporting in a provocative format. Clearly one has ignore facts in favor of a good story. Most news media does this I dont think why VICE should be singled out. The whole zoo is like a fancy dress competition I dont see why VICE should be demonized or singled out. P.S. Vice als…

Companies that don't take creative liberties in the way you are suggesting:

New York Times, Reuters, Washington Post, NPR, PBS Frontline, BBC, CBC Radio, ProPublica, Associated Press, The Guardian.

Their code of ethics can be found here: http://www.nytco.com/who-we-are/culture/standards-and-ethics... http://handbook.reuters.com/?title=A_Brief_Guide_to_Standard... http://asne.org/content.asp?pl=236&sl=19&contentid=335 http://ethics.npr.org/ http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/about-us/journalisti... http://www.bbc.co.uk/editorialguidelines/ http://www.cbc.radio-canada.ca/en/reporting-to-canadians/act... https://www.propublica.org/about/code-of-ethics/ http://www.apme.com/?page=EthicsStatement http://www.theguardian.com/guardian/article/0,5814,642387,00...

Vice has editorials for sale if you happen to have $27,850: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cj_1xHMVAAE9FUs.jpg:large

Re: Branding Vice

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Post by I_HALF_CATS » Tue, Jun 21, 2016, 4:19 AM UTC

linkregister wrote: post #20

I_HALF_CATS wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The other Vice parody link in the same article. https://vimeo.com/121639159 via: https://notvice.com/everyone-is-laughing-at-vice-a82a33228b0... P.S. I'm the author, will answer questions regarding my adversarial blog after work. (posted at lunch)

That was the article, thanks for introducing me to EDGE, it's great! I'm looking forward for the discussion after you finish lunch.

Sorry. Got side tracked. Will reply as long as the thread stays open.

Re: Branding Vice

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jun 21, 2016, 4:19 AM UTC

linkregister wrote: post #20

I_HALF_CATS wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The other Vice parody link in the same article. https://vimeo.com/121639159 via: https://notvice.com/everyone-is-laughing-at-vice-a82a33228b0... P.S. I'm the author, will answer questions regarding my adversarial blog after work. (posted at lunch)

That was the article, thanks for introducing me to EDGE, it's great! I'm looking forward for the discussion after you finish lunch.

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Re: Branding Vice

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Post by I_HALF_CATS » Tue, Jun 21, 2016, 4:25 AM UTC

serg_chernata wrote: post #14

Is there a publication that does edgy, interesting content like Vice but isn't tied up in advertising controversy? This is a multi-layered question so answer however you like, I'm genuinely curious.

Many indie documentary companies are edgy. Just look at what plays at festivals like 'hotdocs'.

Speaking more generally about journalism you can try The Intercept.

But if you want more established sources where you have to dig for edgy content you can try New York Times, Reuters, Washington Post, NPR, PBS Frontline, BBC, CBC Radio, ProPublica, Associated Press and The Guardian.