How exactly did she "transform" it if they were number 3 before and are number 3 now?
How Diane Greene Transformed Google's Cloud
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Re: How Diane Greene Transformed Google's Cloud
#22I moved from AWS EC2 to Google Cloud a few days ago. Google really seems to have beaten AWS, at least in pricing and flexibilty. On AWS (Singapore region) a 2-vCPU, 7.5G RAM instance costs $143/month (not including IOPS and bandwidth costs), while a similar one on GC works out to about $56/month. That's a massive difference. In addition, GC allows me to customize cores and RAM flexibly to a point, which is important…
You can't buy a GC instance in Singapore though? Not quite a fair comparison in that case!
1. https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/regions-zones/regions-...
Re: How Diane Greene Transformed Google's Cloud
#23tl;dr - Greene convinced Google to get serious about providing cloud services to enterprise.
New hires, even at the exec level, usually don't have the social capital to make huge changes. So they usually tie in to an existing sentiment.
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#24Interesting article. For anyone working with Google's Cloud Platform, there are definitely changes happening both in product and culture. As a company that's used all the major clouds and vendors out there (AWS, Azure, Softlayer, GCP, Internap), Google's has been the best so far with simple fast tech that works. They are clearly behind in features and breadth of offering but I agree with Diane's statements that the u…
Whom would you like to reach? (sounds like PMs and/or engineers). I'd consider it okay that you ping me and I route your issues to the relevant folks (there's always going to be routing), but for existing customers most questions naturally should go through support (either directly or via requests from Sales when a customer contacts them). Are you an active customer who is having trouble reaching us? Or a prospective…
sorry if it's the wrong place to report an issue that I faced recently with GCP.
I had reached the limit of max projects one can have in their dashboard. I deleted some projects and when I tried to create a new project, I was getting the same message .
I had to wait for a week to create a new project ( the time window in which user can stop project deletion )
this really prevented me from trying some new services in spite of GCP giving generous $300 credit.
Re: How Diane Greene Transformed Google's Cloud
#25The article seems to allude that Google's cloud offerings are, like a lot of services they offer, just side projects for them. That would explain why a lot of their platform feels half-baked. And the article (clearly a PR piece) waffles on about how Diane Greene has brought in lots of sales and marketing muscle. I see that clearly in the large amount of PR articles about Google Cloud floating around (including on Hacker News) and the sheer quantity of Google employees on social media and on here. I don't see the same from AWS. At first I saw that as a good thing, but it seems like the same effort that goes into their marketing and customer engagement has not gone into the technical side of things, despite what the article may say.
Perhaps that's a necessity of business. Maybe Alphabet doesn't want to pour more resources into Google Cloud without seeing more revenue. So Diane Greene is beefing up the numbers so she can get the technical resources she needs allocated. Maybe. My personal opinion remains doubtful, given Google's overarching track record, but time will tell.
Google Cloud is by no means unusable. It's a nightmare to work with, yes, but it does work, and if you've got the engineers on staff to handle the extra workload, then it's fine. We're going to continue to put up with it, because Google's particular mix of offerings allows us to save money and at the end of the day that's the common tongue. I just wish they wouldn't make my life more difficult.
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#26> When pointing out that Microsoft also offers a computer vision API, translation services, and APIs for Office 365, and that IBM also offers weather data and language services, and so on, Greene's got a comeback ready. "We have Chromebooks." Is she joking? I can't see how they make Google's cloud more attractive than others. Am I missing something here? Edit: I also wanted to add that there wasn't much concrete info…
For most people Chrome Book's have everything you need since most Apps are available as a Web App, that's super simple since it hides the complexity of managing a Desktop OS, has instant startup, is automatically synced + backed-up, secure by default which is essentially impervious to viruses and lets you get access to all your work from any PC by just signing in to your gmail account. Because of this I've replaced m…
There's practically zero administration involved.
I'm sure there are companies who could benefit from this; but they need to accept that they rely on a single provider and its uptime for all their software and data storage requirements.
This is a huge trade off, and must be considered carefully.
Re: How Diane Greene Transformed Google's Cloud
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Whom would you like to reach? (sounds like PMs and/or engineers). I'd consider it okay that you ping me and I route your issues to the relevant folks (there's always going to be routing), but for existing customers most questions naturally should go through support (either directly or via requests from Sales when a customer contacts them). Are you an active customer who is having trouble reaching us? Or a prospective…
Hi, sorry if it's the wrong place to report an issue that I faced recently with GCP. I had reached the limit of max projects one can have in their dashboard. I deleted some projects and when I tried to create a new project, I was getting the same message . I had to wait for a week to create a new project ( the time window in which user can stop project deletion ) this really prevented me from trying some new services…
I've never run into this, and apparently that's because the issue is that we have a limit of 10 free trial projects (to prevent abuse). I'll look into the "Seriously, let me delete immediately" thing though.
Re: How Diane Greene Transformed Google's Cloud
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
For most people Chrome Book's have everything you need since most Apps are available as a Web App, that's super simple since it hides the complexity of managing a Desktop OS, has instant startup, is automatically synced + backed-up, secure by default which is essentially impervious to viruses and lets you get access to all your work from any PC by just signing in to your gmail account. Because of this I've replaced m…
> save a lot of IT Admin costs if they switched to Google Docs + Chrome Books There's practically zero administration involved. I'm sure there are companies who could benefit from this; but they need to accept that they rely on a single provider and its uptime for all their software and data storage requirements. This is a huge trade off, and must be considered carefully.
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#29GCP will be adding 2 new regions by the end of 2016 and bringing an additional 10 regions online by the end of 2017. How does this compare to the scale of AWS?
Geographic reach is the significant thing holding GCP back at this point - despite being ahead on the tech. Not having a Singapore presence (or anything closer to India) basically kills it as a serious option for many Indian companies. I personally know of a couple of startups personally who would have loved to use GCP since they actually want to use things like BigQuery, but went with AWS due to this. They have so f…
Disclosure: I work on Compute Engine.
Re: How Diane Greene Transformed Google's Cloud
#30I moved from AWS EC2 to Google Cloud a few days ago. Google really seems to have beaten AWS, at least in pricing and flexibilty. On AWS (Singapore region) a 2-vCPU, 7.5G RAM instance costs $143/month (not including IOPS and bandwidth costs), while a similar one on GC works out to about $56/month. That's a massive difference. In addition, GC allows me to customize cores and RAM flexibly to a point, which is important…
Yeah, I've seen multiple folks putting off reserved instance commitments and continuing to pay on-demand costs since they don't want to get locked in for a year. Its a serious commitment for smaller companies. The No-Upfront reservation options that AWS last year helped narrow the difference quite a bit - but Google automatic discounts for sustained use are so much better and less complicated for users.
Disclosure: I work on Compute Engine.