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Couldn't this come down more to men being conditioned to be more assertive and women being conditioned to de-escalate?
That wouldn't explain why men were assigned different jobs than women. ...sexist infrastructure was in place that kept female interns shuffling papers while their oftentimes less experienced male counterparts had legitimate “engineering” assignments.
I think using the word 'fun' in this title is demeaning and misleading. Women aren't looking for fun, they're looking for meaningful, interesting work and are being denied it. (Obviously not all women, etc. etc.) I know a very talented woman with more experience and talent than her teammates who constantly deals with the interesting work being given to men instead of her. In meetings men look to the other men for opi…
Wow, the comments so far are so disappointing. (When I wrote this they are all completely dismissive of this study.)
Are you really disappointed about that dataset of three... or were you just racing to proactively get this comment in before the thread starts, and someone else beats you to it?
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Not every study is a double-blind random sample with statistical modeling and error bars.
Which also means not every study should be used to project its results over an entire population.
I think using the word 'fun' in this title is demeaning and misleading. Women aren't looking for fun, they're looking for meaningful, interesting work and are being denied it. (Obviously not all women, etc. etc.) I know a very talented woman with more experience and talent than her teammates who constantly deals with the interesting work being given to men instead of her. In meetings men look to the other men for opi…
If so, I think the same argument could be made for introverts vs extroverts regardless of sex. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
I just heard another first hand account of a female computer science masters candidate dropping out shortly before completion due to sexual harassment from her supervisor and no support on the matter from the University. Interesting that the study focuses on the "fun" aspect while the journals themselves highlight unwanted advances and "creepiness" from males. There are many factors keeping women out of computer scie…
Wow, the comments so far are so disappointing. (When I wrote this they are all completely dismissive of this study.)
The comments on any HN thread about barriers to gender equity in software engineering illustrate the barriers to gender equity in software engineering.
The article instead asks a novel question and leaves solutions open. How do tasks get divided among peer groups? It seems like people who are vulnerable to peer pressure (girls in engineering, in the examples here) are likely to get booted out of tasks they enjoy and relegated to routine chores instead. It's a testable hypothesis, it opens a new perspective, and if proven true it lends itself to very reasonable remedies for both employers (e.g. formalize the task assignment process) and the affected engineers (watch out and prepare to stand up to it if needed).
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That wouldn't explain why men were assigned different jobs than women. ...sexist infrastructure was in place that kept female interns shuffling papers while their oftentimes less experienced male counterparts had legitimate “engineering” assignments.
Actually, it would. Example: "Hey boss, why wasn't I assigned to X project?" is something someone more assertive would say.