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Re: Stockfighter's Jailbreak CTF trainer is live

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Post by saturdayplace »

hyperpape wrote: post #19
FilterSweep wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Susie writes great crud apps in Django/RoR/Node/MEAN/ASP/etc ad nauseum, and in order to get a raise, she must write a novel C program off a minified library that compiles to bytecode while using exact memory addresses as a debugger? How does this solve Susie's problem?

It doesn't, unless Susie discovered she liked really low level stuff a few years ago. It's definitely not equally applicable to everyone, and that's ok.

In case anyone in the thread above didn't know, there is a different set of stockfighter challenges to play that involves writing code that accesses a REST API that be more aligned with Susie's interests in that case.

Re: Stockfighter's Jailbreak CTF trainer is live

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Post by s3nnyy »

Dev hiring is a sourcing problem, not a filtering problem.

The people behind starfighter are brilliant and I respect them big time. So, probably they know what they're doin. I am excited to see how they want to solve dev hiring since starfighter looks more like a product that does filtering, not sourcing.

(I am thinking since a long time to build something that leverages Github to find and reach out to engineers; e.g., when a company looks for Angular people to just parse the Angular repo for engineers that watch / contribute to the repository and reach out to them. if you have any ideas on this or want to help, please shoot me a message).

Re: Stockfighter's Jailbreak CTF trainer is live

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Post by wdmeldon »

doktrin wrote: post #14
j4pe wrote: post #12

I rarely want to like a product more than I want to like Stockfighter, because of both the people involved and the underlying concept. But there are a million other things I want to sink time into improving. Music, my Starcraft MMR, boxing. To finish a day hacking and coding, come home, and - for months, if I want good results - do more hacking and coding feels like an exhausting prospect. Even if the scenario is fun…

> because I don't have the desire right now to code all day and then code some more Tell me about it. Speaking only for myself, I have near-constant coder's guilt - a term I just made up to describe the nagging voice in my head that keeps telling me I should be coding more in my free time. It sounds something like this : "somewhere a rockstar wizard ninja is writing a C compiler in Haskell and here you are wasting yo…

> you are wasting your time with Overwatch

No time spent playing Overwatch is time wasted.

Re: Stockfighter's Jailbreak CTF trainer is live

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Post by tinco »

doktrin wrote: post #14
j4pe wrote: post #12

I rarely want to like a product more than I want to like Stockfighter, because of both the people involved and the underlying concept. But there are a million other things I want to sink time into improving. Music, my Starcraft MMR, boxing. To finish a day hacking and coding, come home, and - for months, if I want good results - do more hacking and coding feels like an exhausting prospect. Even if the scenario is fun…

> because I don't have the desire right now to code all day and then code some more Tell me about it. Speaking only for myself, I have near-constant coder's guilt - a term I just made up to describe the nagging voice in my head that keeps telling me I should be coding more in my free time. It sounds something like this : "somewhere a rockstar wizard ninja is writing a C compiler in Haskell and here you are wasting yo…

Hi man, I just interrupted my game of Overwatch because a colleague pointed me to this comment. My C compiler in Haskell is located here: https://github.com/tinco/nanc it's not fully functional yet, but will be soon ;) Also, just got owned by a team with 3 tracers :(

edit: Just read what this thread is about. I really like to program, so much so that I usually find an hour or two per day to code (not every day, check my github streak if you want) Usually it's between 11pm and 1am, after dinner, after a movie with my partner, when she's playing a video game or watching a series, I do some coding.

So I also play video games or watch movies. I like competitive games, mostly SC2, DotA and now Overwatch, but I don't worry about my MMR the way I used to when I played over an hour per day. Compared to achieving a high MMR building a ninja rockstar software project like a C compiler in Haskell is easy. Who is going to compete with me? It's a crazy idea anyway! I just work on it a couple hours per week, and after a year or two it'll be an impressive project no matter what. It's got everything I learned in it.

Regaining the MMR I had in SC2 back in University will take me months of hard practice, but when I feel like continuing my C compiler, the commits are still there. The C compiler stems from a deep passion I have and a deep frustration I feel with the state of the art, that's why even if I don't dev on it for a few months, I'll go back to it eventually and continue. So... I can relax and play Overwatch for an hour or two, no worries. (Overwatch is much more forgiving than SC2 or DotA btw.)

Re: Stockfighter's Jailbreak CTF trainer is live

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Post by trentmb »

hkmurakami wrote: post #15
j4pe wrote: post #12

I rarely want to like a product more than I want to like Stockfighter, because of both the people involved and the underlying concept. But there are a million other things I want to sink time into improving. Music, my Starcraft MMR, boxing. To finish a day hacking and coding, come home, and - for months, if I want good results - do more hacking and coding feels like an exhausting prospect. Even if the scenario is fun…

It's likely also a sign that you're reasonably satisfied with your professional situation. :)

Or the opposite- working a job you don't like just leaves you drained...

Re: Stockfighter's Jailbreak CTF trainer is live

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Post by bdavisx »

pchristensen wrote: post #5
citizens wrote: post #4

"Starfighter is a new, weird kind of recruiting company. We detect and market underpriced programming talent. We do that by creating opportunities for programmers to casually and effectively demonstrate aptitude." Having a hard time parsing this. Do you find underpriced talent and help them get paid more?

Susie works making crud apps for a boring insurance company. She is a brilliant programmer but due to where she lives, personal situations, she hasn't faced a challenge that lets her know the extent of her abilities, etc, she is working below her potential. Susie creates a novel solution to one of Stockfighter's games. Stockfighter uses that solution as evidence to present her to companpanies as a great engineer. She…

Except according to an earlier posting from someone who went thru the process -- they didn't get a direct offer: they still had to go thru technical interviews. I thought a big point of this was that you could skip the BS technical interviews and prove yourself thru this.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11433414

While it's a great service, this takes a lot away for people who are great programmers but might not be great technical interviewers.

Re: Stockfighter's Jailbreak CTF trainer is live

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Post by wdmeldon »

trentmb wrote: post #25
hkmurakami wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's likely also a sign that you're reasonably satisfied with your professional situation. :)

Or the opposite- working a job you don't like just leaves you drained...

I know that feeling all too well :(

Re: Stockfighter's Jailbreak CTF trainer is live

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Post by archimag0 »

gue5t wrote: post #16

The user interface is appalling. Whoever designed this has managed to produce worse ergonomics than a single 1970s-style terminal, for essentially a similar set of tasks (editing text+binary files and piping data through commands). I see some discussion of "files", but seem unable to list them or explore the filesystem. I don't know if this in-game filesystem is supposed to be on the "AVR" device or an imaginary "dev…

- Can't have the compiler side by side with the debugger, even though there's plenty of room on the screen

- When the PC jumps, the highlighted instruction doesn't follow, leaving you lost when stepping through a program

- Can't hit enter on a blank line to repeat previous command

- No 'finish' debugger command?

- Seem to end up in random functions when stepping over simple instructions

- Am I supposed to type 'flash' or 'run' to execute my compiled program? Sometimes the one I just compiled gets executed, sometimes the one I compiled previously - how can we view what's being executed?

I really enjoyed microcorruption, and thought that UI was fine, but this feels like a step backwards.

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