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Re: Thinking Machine 6: Play chess against a transparent intelligence

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Post by sheepleherd » Thu, Jun 09, 2016, 3:45 PM UTC

psuter wrote: post #9

I feel like the AI is particularly intelligent in its use of lines to distract me. Fun visualization otherwise, even though it's a little hard to really understand what's going on. At least I can tell which moves are not considered.

what would make it much better along those lines (are you listening designers?) would be if it drew its thinking lines on the board but under the pieces.

because I can't study the board while it's thinking (it obscures all the pieces) I can't quickly learn if its lines are interesting or not

Re: Thinking Machine 6: Play chess against a transparent intelligence

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Post by sheepleherd » Thu, Jun 09, 2016, 3:53 PM UTC

catnaroek wrote: post #16

This AI is very stupid. Here's our game, I played white: > 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 Nxe4 It's well known that the correct move here is 3...d6. > 4.Qe2 d5 5.d3 Bb4+ Black could still limit its material losses to just a pawn with 5...Qe7. > 6.c3 Bd6 7.Nf3 0-0 8.dxe4 dxe4 9.Nd4 Nd7 10.Nd2 f5 Completely inexplicable. > 11.Ne6 Qh4 12.g3 Qe7 13.Nxf8 Kxf8 My pieces are still a little stuck, but I'm a full rook up! To my sur…

I think they wanted you to notice the design and the thinking lines. They didn't set out to invent the world's best chess player.

Re: Thinking Machine 6: Play chess against a transparent intelligence

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Post by catnaroek » Thu, Jun 09, 2016, 7:33 PM UTC

sheepleherd wrote: post #22

catnaroek wrote: post #16

This AI is very stupid. Here's our game, I played white: > 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 Nxe4 It's well known that the correct move here is 3...d6. > 4.Qe2 d5 5.d3 Bb4+ Black could still limit its material losses to just a pawn with 5...Qe7. > 6.c3 Bd6 7.Nf3 0-0 8.dxe4 dxe4 9.Nd4 Nd7 10.Nd2 f5 Completely inexplicable. > 11.Ne6 Qh4 12.g3 Qe7 13.Nxf8 Kxf8 My pieces are still a little stuck, but I'm a full rook up! To my sur…

I think they wanted you to notice the design and the thinking lines. They didn't set out to invent the world's best chess player.

In practice, I didn't notice the thinking lines, and I didn't even see the board itself. The author should've displayed the thinking lines on a separate, perhaps smaller, board on the side.

Re: Thinking Machine 6: Play chess against a transparent intelligence

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Post by dragontamer » Fri, Jun 10, 2016, 6:41 AM UTC

gjm11 wrote: post #17

Angostura wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd find it more enjoyable if I could remember what pieces the abstract shapes represent.

They're reasonably evocative (both of the pieces' actual nature and of the traditional shapes used for them), I think. The rook/castle, which moves orthogonally, is represented by a square made out of orthogonal lines. The bishop, which moves diagonally and traditionally has a kinda-triangular mitre on its head, is represented by a triangle with diagonal lines for sides. The knight, which moves in a funny way and is…

I just hung a piece to the opponent's knight because I didn't realize it was a knight.

Its completely unplayable for me.