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FBI wants access to browser history without a warrant in terrorism, spy cases

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Re: FBI wants access to browser history without a warrant in terrorism, spy cases

#21
"Terrorism/spy cases" is just the camel's nose under the tent.

It wasn't even 2 years after the 2001 PATRIOT act that the DOJ was using the provisions for drug cases.

A probably non-exhaustive list is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_invocations_of_t...

Re: FBI wants access to browser history without a warrant in terrorism, spy cases

#23

Wow whoever came up with the whole 'in the name of terrorism' is a goddamn genius. Pretty much a free card to get access to anything and everything for the sake of 'security'.

I agree; it's even better than "think of the children".

Re: FBI wants access to browser history without a warrant in terrorism, spy cases

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post #24

Is it just me or is the FBI a little out of control lately...

> lately… Lately?

Well played, but in the public eye.

I think the fact that they completely invented a fictitious science to prosecute cases should have brought serious investigation and televised congressional hearings with daily news coverage...

...but nope.

Scrap it and start over.

Re: FBI wants access to browser history without a warrant in terrorism, spy cases

#28

Wow whoever came up with the whole 'in the name of terrorism' is a goddamn genius. Pretty much a free card to get access to anything and everything for the sake of 'security'.

"The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

--Hermann Göring

Re: FBI wants access to browser history without a warrant in terrorism, spy cases

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> lately… Lately?

Well played, but in the public eye. I think the fact that they completely invented a fictitious science to prosecute cases should have brought serious investigation and televised congressional hearings with daily news coverage... ...but nope. Scrap it and start over.

I'm a little behind, what fictitious science is this?

Re: FBI wants access to browser history without a warrant in terrorism, spy cases

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You'd think terrorism/spy cases would be a small minority of overall cases. And not that hard to justify a warrant. Seems odd that they feel it is important to skip the warrant step for such cases. Why not require a warrant? The more checks and balances the better.

Is it a speed thing? Like do you think they're fighting with their own layers of bureaucracy?

Is there a way to make obtaining warrants more transparent and straightforward?

It honestly seems like they could design a better system that doesn't get rid of the checks, increases citizen trust, and solves their issues.

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