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Google: new concerns raised about political influence by ‘revolving door’ jobs

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Re: Google: new concerns raised about political influence by ‘revolving door’ jobs

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I'm not sure how this is very different than Goldman saches both hiring former members of the SEC and having many of its employees go on to fill top financial regulatory positions in government. People are not up in arms about that. I am sure other top banks in Europe do similar things ie have people they can influence in top positions or hire them. It is mostly likely google is the nrw kid on the block trying this s…

It's no different.

People are up in arms over this.

Re: Google: new concerns raised about political influence by ‘revolving door’ jobs

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The most important piece of the article: > Questions have been raised about who funds the Google Transparency Project. The CfA declined to say, and this prompted suspicion that it is bankrolled by rival media and internet companies keen to check the company’s power. If you're going to be a transparency-watchdog, it helps that your own organization remains transparent as well.

This is a very bad attempt at deflecting attention from the the very tight (and troublesome) relationship Google has with USG and this is very well documented by now. That this specific company isn't very transparent doesn't take anything away from this troublesome fact. So no, that's not the most important piece of the article at all.

Re: Google: new concerns raised about political influence by ‘revolving door’ jobs

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I'm not sure how this is very different than Goldman saches both hiring former members of the SEC and having many of its employees go on to fill top financial regulatory positions in government. People are not up in arms about that. I am sure other top banks in Europe do similar things ie have people they can influence in top positions or hire them. It is mostly likely google is the nrw kid on the block trying this s…

>It is mostly likely google is the nrw kid on the block trying this sort of thing Right. Basically the banks have been playing this game for so long and are quite smart about it so they've learned how to keep things on the down low so the public won't get up in arms about it. They're also way ahead of tech in the PR game (or rather, not having undesireable PR pop up). Just look at how much flak big tech gets vs big b…

> Right. Basically the banks have been playing this game for so long and are quite smart about it so they've learned how to keep things on the down low so the public won't get up in arms about it.

People are just used to it, it's not that they are good at hiding it. They just don't care about hiding it.

Re: Google: new concerns raised about political influence by ‘revolving door’ jobs

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I'm not sure how this is very different than Goldman saches both hiring former members of the SEC and having many of its employees go on to fill top financial regulatory positions in government. People are not up in arms about that. I am sure other top banks in Europe do similar things ie have people they can influence in top positions or hire them. It is mostly likely google is the nrw kid on the block trying this s…

> I'm not sure how this is very different than Goldman saches both hiring former members of the SEC and having many of its employees go on to fill top

It is not. It just that GS has never claimed its mission was to "Do No Evil" and never positioned itself on a moral pedestal. Google did, which was a well calculated PR move and which propelled its popularity for many years. "Look at our bright fun colors, we are so playful, honest, and cute! We got all your data, but don't worry, it all just for fun".

So there is nothing wrong with that of course. Unless they later on turn out to move against that perception. Then I think it is quite fair to single them out and point a finger at their hypocrisy.

It is not very different than say a person claiming, they are righteous, moral, kind, etc then getting caught stealing or doing other things. They get a worse backlash if they just hadn't been advertising their superior ethics beforehand.

Re: Google: new concerns raised about political influence by ‘revolving door’ jobs

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I'm not sure how this is very different than Goldman saches both hiring former members of the SEC and having many of its employees go on to fill top financial regulatory positions in government. People are not up in arms about that. I am sure other top banks in Europe do similar things ie have people they can influence in top positions or hire them. It is mostly likely google is the nrw kid on the block trying this s…

>It is mostly likely google is the nrw kid on the block trying this sort of thing Right. Basically the banks have been playing this game for so long and are quite smart about it so they've learned how to keep things on the down low so the public won't get up in arms about it. They're also way ahead of tech in the PR game (or rather, not having undesireable PR pop up). Just look at how much flak big tech gets vs big b…

"Just look at how much flak big tech gets vs big banks with respect to gender equality and inclusivity"

I think big banks get much more flak than tech companies, but it's about issues that affect average people's lives much more than gender equality for people with high-paying tech and banking jobs.

For example, the banks and the housing bubble they created destroyed many ordinary people's lives: lots of people who were sold mortgages they couldn't afford lost their homes due to foreclosures, and many people lost their jobs in the ensuing recession. There were lots of people asking why no bankers went to prison for some of the massive fraud that went on (subprime CDOs being rated as AAA investments, etc.).

Remember that there's an Occupy Wall Street movement, but not an Occupy Silicon Valley movement (not yet, at least).

Re: Google: new concerns raised about political influence by ‘revolving door’ jobs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It is mostly likely google is the nrw kid on the block trying this sort of thing Right. Basically the banks have been playing this game for so long and are quite smart about it so they've learned how to keep things on the down low so the public won't get up in arms about it. They're also way ahead of tech in the PR game (or rather, not having undesireable PR pop up). Just look at how much flak big tech gets vs big b…

Finance has a pretty bad reputation these days though, saying finance is corrupt isn't exactly news worthy, which is why Hillary Clinton is copping so much flak for having a close relationship with Goldman Sachs. If it was Google instead I don't think it'd be as big an issue

It's there but like you say no one makes a big deal of it.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/03/21/clinton-emails-s...

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