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Jessica Roy: Dear San Francisco Employers: Please Hire Me

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Re: Jessica Roy: Dear San Francisco Employers: Please Hire Me

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"I was reared during the internet age, most consciously during the dot com bust. I am also only 22, meaning that I am the definition of cheap labor. No, seriously, I think that getting paid anything more than $12/hour is “living large,” and getting paid $12/hour is “extremely manageable.”" I'm also 22, Currently making 70k... i would find $12/hour anything but living large.

True, but you have to take into consideration the type of job she wants.

Very few, if any, entry-level jobs in media and publishing pay 70K.

Plus I'm not so sure that $12/hour is so ridic. An entry level job at a consulting firm is ~70K but you work ~80 hours a week which results in a whopping $18/hour!

Living large indeed.

Re: Jessica Roy: Dear San Francisco Employers: Please Hire Me

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Here's the problem with the current "employment opportunity discovery" mechanism. You need a large number of qualified applicants to review job postings and to reply to those, generating a "success" for a particular site for a particular company. You need a large number of accurate, quality job postings to attract applicants. I've thought about this space for quite a while, fragmenting job sites all charge money to t…

Your last paragraph is on point. I disagree though with your idea about a database of applicants thats searchable by skill. I think your system would fail without a means to authenticate and validate people's credentials, plus without a validation layer it'll only encourage people to exaggerate or lie about their skills. The other problem from the perspective of an applicant is submitting resumes and cover letters to…

Yeah, validation layer was one of the many, many issues with the system. Maybe a dating site type system...have an index of jobs and applicants. Free to send messages back and forth, completely anonymouse. Messages are "request for application", "application", "denial of application", "denial of request for application", "application accepted" (not you're hired, but the application was received and we're reviewing it), "request for screening" and "accept/decline screening". You can't send a message if you have one pending a response. Make it 100% free, charging money to increase the number of pending responses you can have and still send a message.

Don't mind the rambling...this is literally typing as I think.

Re: Jessica Roy: Dear San Francisco Employers: Please Hire Me

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There should be a site that highlights truly fucking awesome people looking for jobs and has an actual insight into them (plus what they've built). I'd hire those people.

Here's the problem. Truly awesome people can jump from job to job with ease. They're always in demand. They're always having offers thrown at them, even when they aren't looking.

Where there's a need for a website is for inexperienced, but otherwise awesome folks. Those people that haven't been discovered yet because they are fresh out of school, perhaps like this person. The big problem with this idea is that there's no guarantee that somebody who is an awesome student will make an awesome employee.

Re: Jessica Roy: Dear San Francisco Employers: Please Hire Me

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>> continuously trolling the depressing opportunities on Monster/NYU Careernet/Craigslist. Is this system broken? Is there an opportunity for improvement in the way people find jobs, or is the best way to find good work going to increasingly be by performing memorable stunts to get eyeballs from prospective employers? I'm curious, especially in light of the relative lack of successful startups in the area.

The system is indeed broken. Finding a job is a horrible experience for most people. If you know enough people in your selected field, it is usually not that bad. However, if you want to change careers, move to a new area, or are generally not interested in networking for networking's sake, finding a job is a soul-sucking misadventure. Monster/CareerBuilder sites are absolute crap, especially for IT-related jobs. Ind…

The professions, and everything about them, are designed for people who don't have to work to earn a living, and who work out of service to society. Professional culture is a result of this. That's why rich kids do better in the professional environment. It's not anyone favors them because of their families. It's because they aren't ruined if unemployed for a while, so they don't fear the boss, get more respect, and handle a professional environment better.

The difference, circa 2010, is that nearly everyone has to work to earn a living. So the professional norms are out of date for most people.

This should shine some light on why interview processes are the way they are. For people who are working for love and leisure, a 2-month process from application to decision, with 2 or 3 rounds of interviews that require time off work, isn't unreasonable. For people who either (1) are unemployed and have a ticking clock, or (2) are employed but will be in trouble if they lose their jobs (which is likely if they're caught interviewing, in today's environment).

As for why it's so difficult to find good candidates, the interview process is a big part of it. Good candidates are only willing to go through with it for something approaching a dream job (for a hacker, Google Research; for a quant, DE Shaw). Otherwise, they ask their friends who they know and search informally.

Also, the fact is that most corporate environments are utterly mediocre and soul-sucking, and that hurts all but the most-established companies. There are probably 1000+ companies where a smart person could work and have smart co-workers, good pay, and interesting projects... but only a few stand out for having this reputation (e.g. Google). If you're not on this list of 20 companies, you're going to have a hard time proving that you're not one of those mediocre failboxes.

Re: Jessica Roy: Dear San Francisco Employers: Please Hire Me

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>> continuously trolling the depressing opportunities on Monster/NYU Careernet/Craigslist. Is this system broken? Is there an opportunity for improvement in the way people find jobs, or is the best way to find good work going to increasingly be by performing memorable stunts to get eyeballs from prospective employers? I'm curious, especially in light of the relative lack of successful startups in the area.

The system is indeed broken. Finding a job is a horrible experience for most people. If you know enough people in your selected field, it is usually not that bad. However, if you want to change careers, move to a new area, or are generally not interested in networking for networking's sake, finding a job is a soul-sucking misadventure. Monster/CareerBuilder sites are absolute crap, especially for IT-related jobs. Ind…

"I've actually been more on the other side of the job hunt i.e. finding people to hire. The problem there is that the good/quality coders are just impossible to find."

What can I do to stand out as a quality coder when I'm applying? I'm probably not the best on selling myself properly but I think I'm a good coder (and have had very satisfied clients/employers).

Re: Jessica Roy: Dear San Francisco Employers: Please Hire Me

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Can you actually live in the area on $12/hour? Also, someone should teach her about salary negotiation. Stupid to box yourself in like that. She'll probably end up working for $10/hour.

Actually, I'm willing to bet the opposite. She's going to get significantly more than $12 an hour. Why? Because by saying she's willing to accept $12/hr and fetch lattes to get where she wants to be... she (deliberately) puts herself in a position with no negotiating power. You can't play hardball against somebody like that without feeling like a dick about it. It's like saying to somebody who's about to punch you..…

uhm... about the whole punching thing... you give too much credit to the better angels of our nature

Re: Jessica Roy: Dear San Francisco Employers: Please Hire Me

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The system is indeed broken. Finding a job is a horrible experience for most people. If you know enough people in your selected field, it is usually not that bad. However, if you want to change careers, move to a new area, or are generally not interested in networking for networking's sake, finding a job is a soul-sucking misadventure. Monster/CareerBuilder sites are absolute crap, especially for IT-related jobs. Ind…

The professions, and everything about them, are designed for people who don't have to work to earn a living, and who work out of service to society. Professional culture is a result of this. That's why rich kids do better in the professional environment. It's not anyone favors them because of their families. It's because they aren't ruined if unemployed for a while, so they don't fear the boss, get more respect, and…

The professions, and everything about them, are designed for people who don't have to work to earn a living

Which professions? Ambassador to France?

Re: Jessica Roy: Dear San Francisco Employers: Please Hire Me

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She could get a writing job at a place like RWW easily. Unfortunately it's one of the only places she could get a job. It's also a boiler room. I don't know what the right phrase for a blogging boiler room is.

I hope she truly loves SF because career wise there are more and better opportunities for people like her in NYC.

Re: Jessica Roy: Dear San Francisco Employers: Please Hire Me

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>> continuously trolling the depressing opportunities on Monster/NYU Careernet/Craigslist. Is this system broken? Is there an opportunity for improvement in the way people find jobs, or is the best way to find good work going to increasingly be by performing memorable stunts to get eyeballs from prospective employers? I'm curious, especially in light of the relative lack of successful startups in the area.

The system is indeed broken. Finding a job is a horrible experience for most people. If you know enough people in your selected field, it is usually not that bad. However, if you want to change careers, move to a new area, or are generally not interested in networking for networking's sake, finding a job is a soul-sucking misadventure. Monster/CareerBuilder sites are absolute crap, especially for IT-related jobs. Ind…

Hey, I'm in Tampa. Maybe HN should have a better jobs section.
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