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Re: Mahalo's disappearing noindex tags

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Post by scott_s »

alain94040 wrote: post #4

Shame on Google algorithms for not automatically being able to detect a page without content. Over the years, my view of the Google's ranking algorithms went from dream-like (they are so smart they understand everything) to infant-like (just a bunch of keyword counters). Obviously there has to be huge complexity involved, so my current view must be pessimistic, but still... Just one (unrelated) example: search for "l…

Google is a tool, and like all tools, you need to learn how to use it. Two of your keywords are unnecessary, and I think that caused the problem. First, you don't need "leader." If you're looking for the top of something, you already get that information from the ordering of results. Second, "online" is redundant, since anything you look for will probably be "online." (And I suppose you don't need "in," but I don't think Google used it anyway.)

So then you're just left with "used cars." That result page looks reasonable to me.

Re: Mahalo's disappearing noindex tags

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Post by houseabsolute »

Posted this over on that blog, but I thought it might be interesting to HN readers too:

I also noticed this snippet of code:

  if(url.indexOf(”google.”)!=-1||url.indexOf(”search.yahoo”)!=-1||url.indexOf(”search.live”)!=-1||url.indexOf(”bing.”)!=-1){
    if($(”#adsense_2719325″).parents(”#right-column”).length > 0 && !isImage){
      $(”#adsense_2719325″).addClass(”afc_wide”);
    }
    $(”#adsense_2719325″).html(ads);
    $(”#ads-section-2719325″).show();
  } else {
    $(”#ads-section-2719325″).hide();
  }
Does that mean that he basically shows different content to people coming from search engines? Is that kosher?

Re: Mahalo's disappearing noindex tags

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Post by dschobel »

raganwald wrote: post #5

Who is Jason Calacanis and why is this particular but of SEO notable? What is aspect of this should "gratify my intellectual curiosity?"

I don't particularly care about Calacanis (sorry Jason) but I'd say gaming Google this thoroughly is pretty newsworthy.

Or at least it was the first three times we read about it.

Re: Mahalo's disappearing noindex tags

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Post by aresant »

In Jason's most recent subscriber email he absolutely THROWS Mark Zuckerberg under the bus for lacking integrity and riding on the edge to grow his business.

If there’s ever been a case of the pot calling the kettle black . . .

Re: Mahalo's disappearing noindex tags

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Post by tomh- »

I guess as long as you bring in a lot of money for Google they will look the other way. I'm just wondering if their anti spam team is aware of articles like this and why they don't respond? This is really a clear case of spam and its going on for ages..

Re: Mahalo's disappearing noindex tags

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Post by vaksel »

houseabsolute wrote: post #22

Posted this over on that blog, but I thought it might be interesting to HN readers too: I also noticed this snippet of code: if(url.indexOf(”google.”)!=-1||url.indexOf(”search.yahoo”)!=-1||url.indexOf(”search.live”)!=-1||url.indexOf(”bing.”)!=-1){ if($(”#adsense_2719325″).parents(”#right-column”).length > 0 && !isImage){ $(”#adsense_2719325″).addClass(”afc_wide”); } $(”#adsense_2719325″).html(ads); $(”#ads-section-27…

showing/hiding ads is perfectly fine.

What you can't do is use that to keyword stuff your site.

Re: Mahalo's disappearing noindex tags

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Post by vaksel »

browser411 wrote: post #18
jaxc wrote: post #10

If Mahalo is alleged to be a scraper site then just let Google handle it. If you think about, if Google delists the site then thats probably their business model gone because Google is like 60% of search Market in the US and higher else where so if Google delists them and take away their Adsense then they are in trouble. So let them taunt Google all they like and then see what happens when the Google Dragon wakes up…

Goog's 60% market share is understated, too. Yahoo and Bing often point search results back to their own networks (Yahoo & MSN respectively). So third parties like Mahalo probably see Google driving much more than 60% of their search traffic on average.

For me Google usually brings 88-92% of SE traffic, that's the same for most people. Google is understating their market share, because essentially they have a monopoly, and if that was widely known, they'd be regulated in no time.

Re: Mahalo's disappearing noindex tags

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Post by krakensden »

alain94040 wrote: post #4

Shame on Google algorithms for not automatically being able to detect a page without content. Over the years, my view of the Google's ranking algorithms went from dream-like (they are so smart they understand everything) to infant-like (just a bunch of keyword counters). Obviously there has to be huge complexity involved, so my current view must be pessimistic, but still... Just one (unrelated) example: search for "l…

The problem is that PageRank was a beautiful solution that pretty accurately modeled the web, as long as no one knew about PageRank.

Re: Mahalo's disappearing noindex tags

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Post by josefresco »

jcromartie wrote: post #9
raganwald wrote: post #5

Who is Jason Calacanis and why is this particular but of SEO notable? What is aspect of this should "gratify my intellectual curiosity?"

Jason Calacanis is a guy who runs a sweatshop building a website you've probably never been to and never will because you're a smart person who doesn't fall for spam. He also has made a career out of being a professional asshole and making fun of "lifestyle businesses" that make products that people like and pay for. He thinks that if you're not a workaholic and want to enjoy your short time here on Earth then you sh…

Keep your personal opinions out of this debate, please.

This is who Jason is for those who do not know why his 'bad behavior' is so watched and talked about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Calacanis

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