Every current Mac laptop user:
"Why the hell don't you release a retina macbook air? (A toy 'macbook' does not count.)
Chromebooks outsold Macs for the first time in the US
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Re: Chromebooks outsold Macs for the first time in the US
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#23As someone who works in a K-12 setting, I'm not surprised. 1:1 chromebook initiatives are exploding across the country, and with it, a flurry of new edtech apps for K-12. At the end of the day, Chromebooks win over both iPads and Macbooks on price and functionality -- 21st century skills include being able to type and work your way around a computer. On top of that, Google's provisioning and management systems are so far the best, but definitely not perfect yet.
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#24Not surprised ... Apple hasn't put out a laptop with up-to-date specs for years. I'm a lifelong Mac user and I'm unhappy with their current specs.
The Tim Cook version of Apple is all about milking the now, with no view towards the future.
I think it was an insanely crappy decision for Steve Jobs to hand the controls of Apple to a logistics expert.
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#25This might be due to the fact that a new Macbook Pro is coming. Everyone I know has held off upgrading until the new form factor comes out at WWDC.
The problem there is that Google will likely release an updated Chromebook Pixel soon, also. With coreboot enabling installation of Linux on the Pixel for developers (And stock ChromeOS for regular users, of course), there is no reason to prefer MBP over the Pixel.
Requiring apple hardware to develop for ios is a pretty big reason to prefer mbp over pixel. Even if you aren't an ios developer, a development shop that does mobile will most likely deploy macs to their developers.
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#26That's hard to believe (I believe it, but it struck me as incredible at first). I don't know anyone with a Chromebook, and it's such a different way of computing that it's hard to believe it's taken off so much in such a short time. I think it is reflective of a new generation whose first computing experience was with phones and tablets. The idea that nothing of importance lives on the device is a huge paradigm shift…
> I don't know anyone with a Chromebook
That may be because of who is buying them. They are making huge inroads to public schools (a former apple stronghold). The "Cloud Everything" bit solves a large "where's my data" problem that used to plague our kids WRT school work. No more taking the wrong thumbdrive to school problem.
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Somehow I don't think that their hardware is as much an issue as their price point. As a developer you'd still be a fool (or just loaded with elbow grease) to attempt developing with a chrome book.
As a developer you'd still be a fool (or just loaded with elbow grease) to attempt developing with a chrome book The Chromebook Pixel running Fedora is a lovely development platform.
If you remove ChromeOS, it isn't really a Chromebook anymore.
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I think you answered your own question: > ChromeOS itself is free to license for vendors If it's free, it's for a reason.
That same logic applies to the Linux kernel, right?
Not really, the linux is a volunteer effort spearheaded by a non-profit where members take advantage of the advance of the kernel for their own products/ideals, while Google is very much a for-profit corporation which benefits here by the increase in users for their services. Services which are ad-supported for the most part.
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That same logic applies to the Linux kernel, right?
Chrome OS is not open source.
Chromium OS is, though.
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Somehow I don't think that their hardware is as much an issue as their price point. As a developer you'd still be a fool (or just loaded with elbow grease) to attempt developing with a chrome book.
Why? I've developed 100% on a cloud VM for years. All I need locally is a browser. Obviously wouldn't work for some things, but as a full stack developer: no problem.
You can even get a full Ubuntu installation in a chroot very easily using a neat tool called Crouton[1]. Crouton lets you jump in and out of chromeos and ubuntu with a keyboard shortcut. I had a very good experience running crouton+ubuntu on my Acer c720, and I imagine it'd be even better on a higher powered computer